http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-...s-fans-for-leaving-early-and-they-deserved-it
I tend to agree with just about every word. Discuss.
I tend to agree with just about every word. Discuss.
Nats fans and DC sports "fans" in general
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In baseball's "glory days", you'd routinely have 15k in the stands for a regular season game during the week. This is PROFESSIONAL baseball. If a player is butthurt that half the crowd left after the 7th, then its on him. If your paying customers say "well, 2 hours of baseball is good enough for me", then stop playing 3.5 hour 9 inning games that have the exciting pace of lava meandering down Kilauea. It's a joke. 3.5 hours for a regular season 9 inning game is the biggest problem in baseball - the paying customer has done absolutely nothing wrong if they bail on that "early".
I don't get it. For years you've been defending the Nats' attendance and "fans" saying basically, "happens everywhere" and gloating over Phillies' declining attendance. As the article notes, what it describes is standard operating procedure for Nationals Park, nothing new. Now you agree with a piece like this? Say it ain't so. Are you laying the groundwork for your abandonment of Nationals fandom?
Nothing is more exciting than watching two or three pitching changes plus a review or two in the span of the final three innings of the game. High octane stuff right there.
I have a 20 game plan with the pirates. Its a ton of fun to go to a weekday night game that ends at 10:30 at night. What a great way to spend time and money!
I have a 20 game plan with the pirates. Its a ton of fun to go to a weekday night game that ends at 10:30 at night. What a great way to spend time and money!
No, it's fine for me to say it. However, I don't want a bunch of historic bandwagon fans saying it the same moment time they abandon their team, drawing 15K for a holiday weekend game. I'll be there again tonight in the 95 degree heat from first pitch to last. DC sports "fans" blow. Anyone who lives here knows this. Nats are absolutely improving and I have no issues due to the way they started with no owner and no hope. That I defend. Why should we spend money when they aren't trying to win but MLB strips the team of liabilities (read payroll) to raise their sale price for all the other owners.
I commend the intellectual honesty. And in fairness to the Phils, a Labor Day night game isn't an easy sell. School night games never are. Phils would've easily drawn 5K more for a day game, even for that horrid product. But go ahead and kick the Phils while they're down since the Nats were able to get 30k or so paid for a first place showdown in the afternoon.
And it's unlikely to be 95 degrees at first pitch tonight, and should cool down nicely regardless. "Must win" for the Nats.
And it's unlikely to be 95 degrees at first pitch tonight, and should cool down nicely regardless. "Must win" for the Nats.
Right, it will be 89 and 140% humidity. Just walked outside, blows. "In fairness to the Phils", stop it. I could have said in fairness to the Nats, a day game brings lots of families so many parents have to leave early with small children. However, I didn't despite that's what happened to some around me. Personally, I have the Mrs. load those ungrateful snots with ice cream and we stay until the last pitch is thrown.
adp, when you go as a family, do you stick with your key in the wheel well strategy, or do you just force Mrs. adp to carry the keys
Yesterday Mrs. ADP drove as I played tennis in the morning and hurt my elbow. I was hopped up on pain killers. I might pull a Strasburg and have to shut it down. Hopefully no Tommy John coming.
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12 pitchers in a 3 hour 26 minute regular season game. yaaaaaaawn.
Best of luck with the elbow, adp. Was it your goalpost moving arm?
Best of luck with the elbow, adp. Was it your goalpost moving arm?
Terrible news. Perhaps your doctor can advise you to limit your matches played to prevent a catostrophic injury.
c'mon adp, you missed the grapefruit over the middle of the plate.....you put them in your cargo shorts side pocket!
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For those of you who missed tonight's game....well a real gem. Here is my manifesto on Matt Williams...
See what I did there.....nothing. Just like Matt Williams as the Nats proceed to blow a 6 run lead with 2 outs in the 7th. How did they blow it you ask? Let me tell you. 3 hits, only 1 for extra bases and 6 walks and a wild pitch. Matt Williams sits on his hands while Drew Storen walks 3 batters on 14 pitches. Grady F'ing Little was thankful to see a manager more inept. I rarely if ever yell at coaches/managers during a game. What's the point. However, after watching Storen throw a wild pitch, walk half the order and we had no one up in the pen. So I finally hit my breaking and let go a 10 second tirade that frankly I"m not proud of including dropping a bad word. For which the usher comes up to me and says, "ADP, you're not wrong. However, can you please not use bad words while defaming the manager". Then he gave me the wink and nod to carry on, absent bad words. Williams is awful. Storen is done in DC. Sucks, as I like them both but enough is enough. Worse than the Cardinals meltdown. The Mets didn't even need to put the ball in play. Gutless on every level. Good times leaving listening to all the Mets fans chanting, "let's go Mets". Between the Nats and Nova this sports thing hasn't been great the past few years. At least I stayed until the last pitch, right. Solid moral victory. Fuking Nats.
See what I did there.....nothing. Just like Matt Williams as the Nats proceed to blow a 6 run lead with 2 outs in the 7th. How did they blow it you ask? Let me tell you. 3 hits, only 1 for extra bases and 6 walks and a wild pitch. Matt Williams sits on his hands while Drew Storen walks 3 batters on 14 pitches. Grady F'ing Little was thankful to see a manager more inept. I rarely if ever yell at coaches/managers during a game. What's the point. However, after watching Storen throw a wild pitch, walk half the order and we had no one up in the pen. So I finally hit my breaking and let go a 10 second tirade that frankly I"m not proud of including dropping a bad word. For which the usher comes up to me and says, "ADP, you're not wrong. However, can you please not use bad words while defaming the manager". Then he gave me the wink and nod to carry on, absent bad words. Williams is awful. Storen is done in DC. Sucks, as I like them both but enough is enough. Worse than the Cardinals meltdown. The Mets didn't even need to put the ball in play. Gutless on every level. Good times leaving listening to all the Mets fans chanting, "let's go Mets". Between the Nats and Nova this sports thing hasn't been great the past few years. At least I stayed until the last pitch, right. Solid moral victory. Fuking Nats.
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Yes, but the game was already lost the previous inning after blowing the 6 run lead with two outs. The Papelbohn homer was just the inconsequential icing on the cake at that point. We're talking a meltdown of epic nature in the previous inning. 6 runs on 3 hits, and only one being for extra bases.
Is this "I Never Thought I'd Say This," Nats edition?
"I've been watching Nats baseball for almost three seasons...."
"I've been watching Nats baseball for almost three seasons...."
Nats were humming along till that trade. Pretty easy to see that clubhouse cancer was going to ruin the team.
Oh yeah, the Natitude is back!!!! Rizzo could have been the winningest GM in Nats history but imploded because he didn't give a damn. I won't miss him.
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So many people who the "I won't miss them" could apply to . Desmond, Rizzo, Williams, Storen, Paps, Fister, Zimmerman, etc.
Sweet job by Harvey though.
Mets have historically done well vs Pap. I remember a game where he gave up a go ahead slam to Valdespin. I love that he blew the game.
Mets have historically done well vs Pap. I remember a game where he gave up a go ahead slam to Valdespin. I love that he blew the game.
Being a fan can be the worst. I get ADP's frustration. I have had those days with Nova. I can remember almost smashing my TV when we lost to Old Dominion. I can remember my Lab hiding under the bed thinking to himself i hate when nova loses. Almost had a repeat last year.
The Nats pen is simply not good enough. There is no middle relief and it's cost them two games vs. the Cards and now two vs. the Mets. They had the lead late in all 4 games. Funny, because the area Rizzo addressed at the deadline was the pen. Papelbohn has been great (save last night and it was one bad pitch). You don't recover from that loss. The offense has been great of late but the pen historically bad. The last two innings and then leaving was as low as it gets as a fan. Too bad. Good news is the Steelers start tomorrow. I can now move to football and watch teams throw for 400 yards vs. our secondary. Good times all around. Hopefully Nova doesn't choke again in March or I might have to give up on sports.
The Nats are talented but gutless.
This illustrates that being picked to win it all on paper is an entirely different proposition than going out on the playing field and getting it done.
This illustrates that being picked to win it all on paper is an entirely different proposition than going out on the playing field and getting it done.
If you don't like the Nats' bullpen, have to look to Rizzo. Inexplicably traded Clippard in the offseason. Was a top shelf 7th/8th inning guy, had delivered in close games and postseason, been with the team for a while, seemed to be a good teammate (and was a guy I found it hard not to like). Guys like that hold down good bullpens. And Rizzo also thought it would be a great idea to go into the season with Storen as closer, even though the guy had proven in multiple years he's going to soil the sheets when the games get big. Fell in love with his own draft pick and "club control" over him I guess.
By the time he realized how dumb all this was, was lucky to get Pap, though it was late and caused Tin Man Storen to have a hissy fit along with other pu$$ies remaining on the roster who evidently didn't care about postseason success. And other bullpen help probably would have cost too much in players offering team control for the future.
By the time he realized how dumb all this was, was lucky to get Pap, though it was late and caused Tin Man Storen to have a hissy fit along with other pu$$ies remaining on the roster who evidently didn't care about postseason success. And other bullpen help probably would have cost too much in players offering team control for the future.