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I'll never say a bad word about that guy, but that his talk with the press was painful yesterday. He said he feels disrespected and was treated unfairly by the media. I can agree to an extent that I always thought Howard has been a whipping boy for bad contracts in baseball, but that was always more nationally than locally.

Then he gets into talking about how he doesn't think it's fair to platoon him because of his past production. I get that he is a competitor and wants playing time but he can't be serious here. A platoon with Ruf is about the best thing for Howard. It gives him a chance to play to his strength of hitting against RH, it keeps him fresh, and who knows - if he does well the Phillies can move him for nothing to a team that can bring him in for a power bat off the bench for the end of the season.

http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-p...rd-feels-disrespected-says-check-track-record
 
Of course you can't say anything bad about him, you are a blue blood CoP'er. He has been trash for a while and his contract (I know I said it) was terrible.
 
Has he put the Florida residence on the market yet?

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A.) I find it very interesting that he blames the media for pointing out his splits suck. It obviously wasn't the media that decided to bench him against lefties, it was the coaching staff.

B.) His contract sucks and we all know that. What sucks specifically for him is that he was a pioneer in the "give an extension to someone who will be very old and very crappy when this is over" era. He's 36 and he's getting $25 million this year plus a buyout of $10 million next year. Right now, he is the poster boy of the bad contract to an old guy. when he is gone, it will be miggy cabrera or robinson cano someone like that,
 
Stop with the pioneer crap. Idiot GMs have been giving awful contracts like this forever. Let's not pretend Howard was the first to blaze this trail.
 
KennyTheKangaroo said:
A.) I find it very interesting that he blames the media for pointing out his splits suck. It obviously wasn't the media that decided to bench him against lefties, it was the coaching staff.

B.) His contract sucks and we all know that. What sucks specifically for him is that he was a pioneer in the "give an extension to someone who will be very old and very crappy when this is over" era. He's 36 and he's getting $25 million this year plus a buyout of $10 million next year. Right now, he is the poster boy of the bad contract to an old guy. when he is gone, it will be miggy cabrera or robinson cano someone like that,
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Did blind CoP'ers say it was terrible when it happened? I don't think so!!!!
 
I didn't. I don't care about what players get paid. They paid him for past performance. Instrumental part of the greatest era of Phillies' baseball in my lifetime. Getting hurt expedited the decline. Oh well, it happens.
 
SameSmallGroup said:
Stop with the pioneer crap. Idiot GMs have been giving awful contracts like this forever. Let's not pretend Howard was the first to blaze this trail.
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Howard's was a need breed of crap contract. Giving a five year, $120 million extension to a guy that was already 30 or 31 is a relatively recent strategy
 
How about Jose Bautista? He is asking for a 5 year $150 million contract and will refuse to budge because he outperformed his previous contract.

Good luck getting that from anyone.
 
NovaHoops2002 said:
How about Jose Bautista? He is asking for a 5 year $150 million contract and will refuse to budge because he outperformed his previous contract.

Good luck getting that from anyone.
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Yeah, Ryan Howard really f*cked over a lot of stars with how shitty he has been over the last 4 years.
 
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The contract was awful, and myself and many said that from the beginning, because it was given with TWO years remaining on his existing contract. There was absolutely no reason to extend at that time.
 
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It's fair to criticize:
1) the Phillies for the timing and length of the contract.
2) Howard for not taking his fitness seriously and therefore accelerating his injuries and decline
3) Howard for sucking defensively at the easiest position to field.
4) the Phillies for not benching him or releasing him much sooner

I don't blame him for collecting the money that he is contractually due, though.
 
Burrs5 said:
True. I feel bad for Nats' fans instead. Given so many promises and can't even win a single playoff series. Window already closing.
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Don't be, they still go home and have the same life outside of rooting for their sports teams.
 
steve_vu9196 said:
The contract was awful, and myself and many said that from the beginning, because it was given with TWO years remaining on his existing contract. There was absolutely no reason to extend at that time.
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This. Remember thinking how I really liked the buyout of arbitration years -- with three remaining -- allowed them to avoid fighting in arbitration hearings for a couple years, bought time to evaluate. Then, unbelievably, less than a year later Rube does what he did. It was f----g crazy even at the time. Rube turned a smart move into his second worst (Lee to Seattle for a pile of $hit still worse).
 
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