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Poll: poll: Greek Life / Frats

What was your experience with frats in college?

  • I was in one and loved it. Would do it again.

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • I was in one, it was ok, but I've since realized how stupid they were.

    Votes: 12 26.1%

  • I didn't rush any frats in college and I regret it now.

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • I didn't rush any frats in college and I'm glad I didn't.

    Votes: 26 56.5%

  • I wanted to join a frat but none would take me.

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • Total voters
    46
FreddyShoop

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The Sigma Nu post in the other thread gave me a chuckle. Weren't they like the academic All-Star frat back in the day?

Was curious to find out what the overall 4.6 opinion is about frats at Nova.
 
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If I really wanted to join a frat, I would have gone to a state school or Lehigh. One of the things that I really liked about Nova was that they existed, and you could do them if that was your thing, but the social scene didn't revolve around them.
 
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I never joined at my school, however they had good parties and I was friends with people in most of them.
 
One thing that frats need to work on is standardizing their profiling nationwide. I'm sick of "Frat X" being a jock frat at one school, a stoner frat at another school, a football frat at yet another school, etc. Makes it very difficult to jump to conclusions about people.
 
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FreddyShoop said:
The Sigma Nu post in the other thread gave me a chuckle. Weren't they like the academic All-Star frat back in the day?

Was curious to find out what the overall 4.6 opinion is about frats at Nova.
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We used to go to the Sigma Who frat ("its fraternity...would you call your country a cun+?") parties on 63rd Street.
 
I enjoyed it but it didn't rule my social life. My last year was bad because pike and sign ep got in a series of fights and a few guys got injured badly. It was incredibly unfortunate. I was friends with as many guys in sight ep as in pike so steered clear of it. However, it was everything you would hate about frat guys. Regardless, I remain friends and see many of my fraternity brothers today as well as many guys who were not in my frat. IMO, comes down to the person. You can be joe frat guy or you won't. I never needed the frat to make friends but enjoyed being it in.
 
I went to Pitt, and I pledged for for the Pikes at Pitt. I know there is a long running joke about the Pikes on the benchwarmers, but it wasn't an over the top bro-ish group. My dad was in the frat back in the 70s so that was enough motivation to at least give it a shot. I quit about halfway through the process. I didn't quit because of hazing or mistreatment or excess drinking or anything like that; I just didn't think the hassle of pledging (i.e. raising money for some charity that no one in the frat actually cared about, going around to meet all 120 kids in the frat, etc.) was worth any rewards. It was definitely a fantastic way to network and meet girls though. But I knew it wasn't for me, so I hung it up halfway through. I really don't have anything bad to say about frats, though.

College would have ended up different for me if I stuck with it, though. But one valuable lesson I learned is that college is what you make of it. It is easy to meet people who share interests with you. You control how hard you work, who you associate with, if you party, etc.
 
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I enjoyed it but it didn't rule my social life. My last year was bad because pike and sign ep got in a series of fights and a few guys got injured badly. It was incredibly unfortunate. I was friends with as many guys in sight ep as in pike so steered clear of it. However, it was everything you would hate about frat guys. Regardless, I remain friends and see many of my fraternity brothers today as well as many guys who were not in my frat. IMO, comes down to the person. You can be joe frat guy or you won't. I never needed the frat to make friends but enjoyed being it in.
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It was stuff like this that bothered me the most. Some guy bangs some blacked out girl at a "formal" and it turns out she's some other guy's ex girlfriend and he wants to act all tough, and now all of a sudden you've got two groups of 100 bored teenagers with nothing to do but be pissed at one another. I just could never foresee myself giving a shit about stuff like that to the point where I would fight strangers in the name of supporting my "brother."
 
Had no plans to rush and was talked into it by a buddy. Ended up doing it, but was never really gung ho about it. Don't think the Pi Kapps exist anymore.
 
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If I really wanted to join a frat, I would have gone to a state school or Lehigh. One of the things that I really liked about Nova was that they existed, and you could do them if that was your thing, but the social scene didn't revolve around them.
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I was in a frat but nobody took it seriously. There was definitely frats on campus where kids had a chip on their shoulder and thought they were cool because they were in that particular frat, but again, the one I was in, everybody knew that we were at a school that was fun but you needed as many options to find fun as possible so joining a frat opened up more doors for social events. I was happy Villanova was like that, I know how much fun schools like Lehigh and Gettysburg (I had a buddy in a frat there which was A LOT of fun) can be, but I don't think I would have wanted to have my whole college career revolve around a frat as much as it does at those schools.

Long story short, if you are at Villanova, frats and sororities do open doors to have more fun, but remember, you are at Villanova, not some SEC school with houses that are basically mansions, so don't take it too seriously.
 
adp98 said:
I enjoyed it but it didn't rule my social life. My last year was bad because pike and sign ep got in a series of fights and a few guys got injured badly. It was incredibly unfortunate. I was friends with as many guys in sight ep as in pike so steered clear of it. However, it was everything you would hate about frat guys. Regardless, I remain friends and see many of my fraternity brothers today as well as many guys who were not in my frat. IMO, comes down to the person. You can be joe frat guy or you won't. I never needed the frat to make friends but enjoyed being it in.
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Had been curious about adp's level of involvement in those infamous clashes. I remember The Villanovan surviving on that for a couple months -- rare newsworthy material on campus aside from staring down the Lappas abyss that had opened up following the third straight tourney flameout and the '97-'98 hoops team getting beat like a drum.
 
I got dragged into one scuffle more out of defending myself. Once the second one happened I saw the writing on the wall and that was it. One kid in sight ep that I worked out with got seriously injured. Yoy might remember. He was your year. A really nice kid, got kicked in the head many times while down. Just not cool. The problem was all these guys are juicing to look good on spring break. Everyone was juicing and drinkng. Bad scene. I remember we got to cancun and I'm convinced I was the only guy in pike not on the sauce. Just dumb.
 
Do remember the guy that was seriously injured. That there was a massive organized brawl in Pike lot (ironic) by the drunk bus pickup as I recall always struck me as beyond ridiculous.

And I'll never understand people taking 'roids just to lift and try to look good (as opposed to furthering an athletic career, which I can totally understand). Being serious about a routine and lifting 4 or 5 days a week for a couple months off a decent base should more than get the job done for a majority of males. If you still don't look good at that point, probably just need to eat better (I remember a chubbier PIke my year who seemed to take to the program), or you just don't have the right body type. But everybody doing it is crazy.
 
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What did a frat offer that you couldn't get yourself?
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It was fun. I didn't join until my sophomore year (PIke could not have pledges freshman year). Again for me it wasn't something I had to do but I enjoyed it. Nothing more or less.

Lowry, it was after a formal (Alpha Chi) when the bus drove everyone back to campus. So dumb. My girlfiend and now wife wasn't in a sorority so I wasn't there. I remember a few of my buddies and I were at our house in Ardmore and getting a call to come. I remember thinking how stupid and we didn't go. This was after the huge melee at that place in Bryn Mawr (blanking on the name, around the corner from Erin's). It was probably the 3rd or 4th fight. By that time it was completely out of control. The kid who got hurt was a really nice guy. I'm glad I wasn't there. We took a lot of shit for not coming. By that time the frat thing became less fun but that's because of the people not the frat itself.The juice stuff was out of control. Guys who never worked out were doing cycles and lifting etc., I did a bunch of dumb things at that age as well so I'm not pure either. Regardless, still some great times and memories. Our pledge football game was up there as my most fun moment during my 4 years at Nova (also a huge fight that game but it was actually fun because it was in the course of the game and naturally I started it).
 
Who was the Pike in that time frame that burned his apartment down by putting a shirt over one of those halogen lamps? Think that was mid 90s.
 
Prime Minister, boom. If memory serves that was the first melee and everyone was involved. One of my roommates started it because naturally he was banging or had banged one of their girlfriends. I can't recall all the sordid details. That was the beginning and it was an all out brawl. Fists flying everywhere. If it would have ended there it would have been a fun story to tell all these years later.
 
Those brawls happened the year after I graduated. But those 2 frats always seemed to be circling the wagons. I could be wrong but I seem to remember a Sig Ep coming out of the closet around that time, and Pikes relentlessly busting balls about it. Kind of like Vito and Fat Dom in that Sopranos episode when breaking balls goes too far.

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I don't remember but it certainly could have happened.
 
FreddyShoop said:
Those brawls happened the year after I graduated. But those 2 frats always seemed to be circling the wagons. I could be wrong but I seem to remember a Sig Ep coming out of the closet around that time, and Pikes relentlessly busting balls about it. Kind of like Vito and Fat Dom in that Sopranos episode when breaking balls goes too far.

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Shoop slow-played this thread nicely. Checked on the first couple of posts and, then, BAM!......a Sopranos reference.
 
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Eric, you get extra points for originality.
 
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