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Eagles heading to the Super Bowl?!?

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I figured someone would already have a thread like this up after last night's victory. Either a serious or troll thread. I'm disappointed in Benchwarmers right now.

But in all seriousness, last night's game showed why they got Murray and Matthews and how they're an upgrade over McCoy. With the d-line and LB pressure, the secondary might actually be decent.
 
Suggs doesn't get that flag if he's not, well, Suggs. His reputation precedes him.

Him and Suh are presumed guilty before innocence. For good reason considering their history.
 
If Bradford stays healthy which is not likely the Eagles will be good. I can guarantee he doesnt stay healthy if they continue to run the read option. Super Bowl is pretty ridiculous
 
Very little doubt he will miss some games just hopefully not more than a handful and hopefully not the ones in January.
 
wcburrs87 said:
How gutless was Suggs' hit on Bradford? Discuss....
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Play looked like a read-option run......way to stop it is to tackle the running back and QB.......probably wouldn't be called in college game. But, Suggs knew the QB was ripe.......think most DE's would have made attempt to get that hit.
 
Ball was long gone from Bradford. Suggs went low, brought him down, and was properly flagged. Not much else to say.
 
Every time a QB runs that read option play where after he hands it off he sprints in the other direction faking like he is still holding the ball, which the Eagles do all the time, then you should be fair game to getting tackled, even for several seconds after the handoff. Don't fake like you are running with the ball if you don't want to get hit.

And it wasn't a low hit either. His initial contact was waist high, and he tackled him with his arms around Bradford's legs.
 
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You guys are blind. I think the NFL generally overprotects QBs, but that was blatant and unnecessary. He knew exactly what he was doing.
 
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pipermal1 said:
If Bradford stays healthy which is not likely the Eagles will be good. I can guarantee he doesnt stay healthy if they continue to run the read option. Super Bowl is pretty ridiculous
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Two of 30 make the SB way to play the odds here. The Eagles are a good team. Avoid multiple injuries and take care of the ball then they are a top 3-4 team in NFC. Achieve that and you're in play to do damage in playoffs.
 
The Eagles will be good if relatively healthy. Beating Sea and/or GB in playoffs is a big ask tho. Especially if you have to play on the road.
 
That play gets flagged independent of who the QB is and the defender. With Suggs, it's par for the course. He might even get a letter from the league office.
 
gldendog said:
The Eagles will be good if relatively healthy. Beating Sea and/or GB in playoffs is a big ask tho. Especially if you have to play on the road.
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Jordy Nelson torn ACL. Come late Decenber what you think of any team might drastically change.
 
True Burrs guys who seam to get injured every year get injured.

The Suggs hit wasn't terrible the play calling put bradford in that situation. Act like you have the ball and you are going to get hit. I guess you could argue it was to low but no one should have an issue with a quarterback getting hit on a play like that.
 
Piper, so I have an idea of who I'm dealing with. Do you like the NFL? Do you root for a specific team?
 
wcburrs87 said:
Piper, so I have an idea of who I'm dealing with. Do you like the NFL? Do you root for a specific team?
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Yes please list your rooting interests and why including place of birth, number of years rooting for team etc so burrs can pass judgment on whether or not you are allowed to root for that team.
 
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Burrs my blood sample is on the way. Let me know if I pass the burrs fan test. Who knows maybe I am a closet Temple fan trolling these boards
 
pipermal1 said:
Burrs my blood sample is on the way. Let me know if I pass the burrs fan test. Who knows maybe I am a closet Temple fan trolling these boards
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So, you can't tell me if you like the NFL and have a rooting interest? I'm assuming you do since you participated in this thread. What's the big deal?

Oh yea, I don't need a blood sample.
 
bmoneynova said:
It was definitely questionable but you'd think he stabbed him from the reactions I was hearing today
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He didn't need to go at his knee. Run through him like most do.

No different than some of your reactions during hockey season.
 
We can put to bed the cheap shot stuff. The head of officials came out and said it shouldn't have been a flag. He called it a bad call. If the quarterback has a read option he is a runner end of story.
 
Suggs has done this throughout his entire career. Wasn't a felony as cheap shots go, but it was low at the knees of a twice-injured QB, well after the ball was handed off. It wasn't a coincidence.
 
pipermal1 said:
We can put to bed the cheap shot stuff. The head of officials came out and said it shouldn't have been a flag. He called it a bad call. If the quarterback has a read option he is a runner end of story.
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And Chip Kelly said it wasn't a read option. Hitting him wasn't what made it cheap to me. Hitting him towards the knees did. Run through him above the knees and I'd have less an issue with it. It was unnecessary.

Piper, are you ready to tell us if you like the NFL and follow a specific team? This doesn't have to be classified information. Unless you're a trolling weirdo.
 
wcburrs87 said:
And Chip Kelly said it wasn't a read option. Hitting him wasn't what made it cheap to me. Hitting him towards the knees did. Run through him above the knees and I'd have less an issue with it. It was unnecessary.]

Bradford moved away from Suggs to try to avoid the hit causing Suggs' impact to be lower then where he was aiming. Not a dirty hit. You don't like exposing your QB in pre-season don't run the play. It may not have been a read option by the play call but it certainly looked like it.
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Yea, fortunately Bradford side-stepped the hit a little, but Suggs was already heading towards his knees.

It wasn't a "roughing the passer" penalty because he wasn't passing. It was more of an unnecessary contact foul. Again, I have more of an issue with his intent. I think going low was obvious. And generally, I think the NFL goes too far in the protection of QBs.
 
Who doesn't follow the NFL? If you want to act like a running back then you get hit like one. Its the reason coaches that have very good Quarterbacks stay away from these types of offenses. Chip beats to his own drum. He is trying to say its a hand off from the shot gun which is a bunch of crap. If thats the case Bradford doesnt need to act like he still has the ball. Also you don't get treated different in the NFL because you are injury prone in fact its the opposite you get hit more and harder. The book on Bradford is hit him and he breaks.
 
Piper, what team do you follow? Or, are you just a general fan of football.

Bradford made no move after giving the ball to Sproles. You don't hit QBs in the head or below the knees. Again, run through him at the mid-section. It was low, intentional, and cheap.
 
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How do you know it was intentional?
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It looked intentional to me. He wasn't tripped. He wasn't in congestion with other players. He had a straight line to the QB. World class athletes typically don't fall low towards the ground with no one around them. He purposely went low. I mean really.
 
wcburrs87 said:
It looked intentional to me. He wasn't tripped. He wasn't in congestion with other players. He had a straight line to the QB. World class athletes typically don't fall low towards the ground with no one around them. He purposely went low. I mean really.
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Any argument to the contrary is silly. Like you said there was no congestion or stumbling. He literally had the time and opportunity to hit him anywhere he desired. Head. Shoulder. Chest. Stomach. Waist. Thigh. Knee. He choose door #7.
 
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wcburrs87 said:
Piper, what team do you follow? Or, are you just a general fan of football.

Bradford made no move after giving the ball to Sproles. You don't hit QBs in the head or below the knees. Again, run through him at the mid-section. It was low, intentional, and cheap.
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This. Unless you want to say that running a play out of the shotgun formation with a running back automatically makes it read option (silly argument IMO), he was not running the read option on that play. He handed off from the get go and didn't try to fake or block. On an earlier play in the game, was different, and perhaps that what was Harbaugh and Suggs were seizing on, but not the same play.

Like it or not, QBs are protected, shouldn't be diving at their knees, really this goes back to Bryce Paup, more recently the uproar over Tommy Boy's knee getting taken out. Suggs is and has been a punk.
 
Quarterbacks are protected but not when they become a running back which is what occurs in the read option. This is why the head of officiating for the NFL said it was a bad call. Chip is pandering trying to say they don't run the read option they are just handing the ball off while in the shotgun. Then don't play fake and roll. They are not going to change the rules for a glass jaw quarterback like bradford. Chip will need to adjust to his oft injured quarterback that he traded for and get rid of the read option or live with the consequences.
 
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