Ian Desmond
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The signing of a .260 hitter who has never drove in 100 runs, never scored more than 80 runs, and has capped out at 25 hrs is now a newsworthy event?
Where is trot Nixon when you need him?
Where is trot Nixon when you need him?
Ball, you must have been in a cave during some of the epic Desmond threads of the past. That's ok, tho.
Just to fill you in, but I was once told that Desmond would garner 4/5 year, 100+ million type deal. Oh yea, and that it would be to play SS.
Just to fill you in, but I was once told that Desmond would garner 4/5 year, 100+ million type deal. Oh yea, and that it would be to play SS.
Understandable. Terrible fielding SS, too. That's why he has to play LF now. Oh yea, strikes out a ton. And key member of one the more underachieving, unlikable teams of recent times.
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Yea, but what about that other team that was going to give it to him? And doing so at the SS position? Remember this?
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For any athlete who turns down a good contract offer and then crashes/burns, maybe we can say, "they really desmonded that one." Or, "those fireworks made JPP desmond the whole 2015 season". Kind of like opposite "the Howard", when you sign a player-friendly contract and then crash/burn.
It was apparent to most that the Nationals started about 6 outfielders and first basemen the last couple years. This was the most blatant issue at a premium defensive position. Very lucky for Rizzo that he didn't have to pay for this one, like he did with the Ryan Zimmerman re-signing.
Hopefully he learns from it. Still unbelievable that Rizzo could have been hoodwinked into offering that kind of money for an outfielder with average offensive numbers even prior to them falling off last year.
Hopefully he learns from it. Still unbelievable that Rizzo could have been hoodwinked into offering that kind of money for an outfielder with average offensive numbers even prior to them falling off last year.
This is where you are simply wrong. Desmond did not put up "average" offensive numbers prior to this year. Including this disaster, the past four seasons he has averaged 22 homeruns. Only 4 other shortstops hit 22 once over the entire 4 year span. Desmond won the Silver Slugger 3 straight times before last season. There was nothing average about his offense. He also stole 20 bases, going 20/20 the previous 3 seasons from the shortstop position. Let's keep it intellectually honest. He doesn't fall off a cliff he at least gets the Hanley 4 for$88 deal. 5 years would have been over $100. He bombed in his walk year.
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So, Desmond was an outfielder playing SS, putting up okay outfielder offensive numbers and horrific defense. I think that everyone just figured it out. Even if he hit .270 this year he wasn't landing $100M.
adp--as I think I implied and other commenters have noted, his numbers were average for an outfielder or 1B, which is where he should've been playing.
No one in baseball but Rizzo apparently thought averaging 25-30 errors per year at the SS position was acceptable.
No one in baseball but Rizzo apparently thought averaging 25-30 errors per year at the SS position was acceptable.
He was already offered $100 million. He crapped the best at the plate and exposed his issues. I was the first guy to say I'd never pay him. If he performed to his average he would have absolutely gotten a deal in line with Sandoval or Hanley. He hit .230. They could live with his defense for a guy years if he's going 20/20 like the previous 3 years.
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You insisted that someone would pay him that. You insisted it would be as a SS.
Also, if he could routinely catch the ball, then his offensive numbers would be ok for a SS. He doesn't do that, which was a major point in the discussion. Now he has to play LF and his offensive numbers are only good for a 1-year, 8-million dollar deal.
Also, if he could routinely catch the ball, then his offensive numbers would be ok for a SS. He doesn't do that, which was a major point in the discussion. Now he has to play LF and his offensive numbers are only good for a 1-year, 8-million dollar deal.
Absolutely Desmond. Yep and it didn't happen Burrs. If he put up his normal numbers it would. He didn't. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Do you blame the player or the agent in this case? He walked away from an additional $88 million over 5 years by not signing the contract two years ago. Nats dodged a bullet. For him to make that money after taking this year's deal he'd need to sign a 4 year, $80 million deal after this season. Good luck with that happening. Maybe he goes to Texas and hits 30 dingers. I'm not betting on it.
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