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People actually still buy music? Between youtube, spotify, pandora, amazon prime music, Siriusxm's app, and number of other sites and services that stream or provide on demand music selections for a fraction of the cost, this should come as little surprise.
 
I buy music. I want stuff on my hard drive even after I cancel a subscription. And I stopped using Kazaa after all of the porn I downloaded crashed my fourth computer.
 
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Apple in cahoots with Verizon and AT&T. If streaming becomes the standard for music listening, what does that do for data plans? Don't give me this "wifi is everywhere" shit either. For example at the gym, no wifi and my signal is poor. Trying to stream a song would suck balls through YouTube. Music needs to be local on a device. Have a hard time believing this article.
 
Apple in cahoots with Verizon and AT&T. If streaming becomes the standard for music listening, what does that do for data plans? Don't give me this "wifi is everywhere" shit either. For example at the gym, no wifi and my signal is poor. Trying to stream a song would suck balls through YouTube. Music needs to be local on a device. Have a hard time believing this article.
Everyone paying a monthly subscription fee for eternity is a better business model for them than irregular purchases. Better beef up those cell networks.
 
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The free streaming services blow. They are too similar to the radio is the sense that there is a lot of crap you dont want to hear, even if it is customized.
 
You guys sound old. So of all the songs you've purchased, how many do you actually enjoy listening to on a daily basis? 2? 5? I could see Apple offering a service bundle where for an additional price you get to 'keep' songs you like. Amazon Prime does it now, where you can download songs for free.
 
Everyone paying a monthly subscription fee for eternity is a better business model for them than irregular purchases. Better beef up those cell networks.

Was speaking with an analyst about this a year or so ago when Apple Music first came out.

It's an absolute gold mine for them. Once you're in on streaming, you have no way of stopping. You're basically paying them 10 bucks a month (or whatever they decide to raise it to, because once you're in, you have basically no way out) for the rest of your life. I'd much rather keep buying songs bespoke and not be tied down to leasing month to month them for the rest of my life.
 
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Was speaking with an analyst about this a year or so ago when Apple Music first came out.

It's an absolute gold mine for them. Once you're in on streaming, you have no way of stopping. You're basically paying them 10 bucks a month (or whatever they decide to raise it to, because once you're in, you have basically no way out) for the rest of your life. I'd much rather keep buying songs bespoke and not be tied down to leasing month to month them for the rest of my life.
Same here. I don't purchases $120 worth of music every year.
 
I doubt they actually close it up. Someone else will come in and just take their market share.
 
I don't understand this. I still purchase music from itunes. If I am driving I don't Stream music.
 
Yeah I may be old, but I don't want to hear what amounts to radio on my device. I want the songs I want when I choose them not an algorithm that plays what it thinks I want to hear.
 
This article is a bit aggressive with the timeline. It will happen but doubtful it happens as quickly as they suggest. One problem is that Apple never improved the iTunes program. Its a bit better on mobile since they separated out the app store but the laptop/desktop version is bloated with apps and other media and it is a clunky interface and program.

I still buy music via iTunes but I also use iTunes match. I do keep copies of my music on a laptop and have a backup hard drive. Between subway rides and outdoor activities, plenty of times when I prefer to have locally stored music.
 
You can set your Spotify playlists for offline streaming so you don't plow through data.
 
Big user of Spotify premium. It's a bargain, especially if you enjoy searching out new music. You can pop on nearly anything the day it comes out and give it a few spins for one manageable fee. Bargain if you ask me, although I wish Neil Young would come around. Every now and again you just want to crank Powderfinger at 11 without switching over to your library.
 
Big user of Spotify premium. It's a bargain, especially if you enjoy searching out new music. You can pop on nearly anything the day it comes out and give it a few spins for one manageable fee. Bargain if you ask me, although I wish Neil Young would come around. Every now and again you just want to crank Powderfinger at 11 without switching over to your library.

Powderfinger is an incredible song, and dmill just elevated in my book based on this post alone.
 
Yeah I may be old, but I don't want to hear what amounts to radio on my device. I want the songs I want when I choose them not an algorithm that plays what it thinks I want to hear.

I feel the same way. I've never understood the fascination with streaming music. Why is that better than having the songs stored on your device? What if your wifi is slow?

I have about 1000 songs on my iPhone. But they're the only 1000 songs I'm interested in hearing. Just because I like Bruce doesn't mean I want to hear Bob Dylan songs. That's not an "algorithm."

If I hear a new song on Sirius in my car that I like (or even an old song from the 80s or 90s that I forgot about) then I'll drop $1.29 and buy it. But that prob amounts to about $10-$15 a year. No way would I pay $120 a year for one of these stupid services.
 
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I was anti-streaming until I got into google play music. Completely underrated as a streaming service.
 
Love Spotify Premium. I have some songs I like saved for offline and then I have playlists that other people andSpotify made that update weekly and also save for offline use. That way I can listen to new music all of the time too.
 
I still prefer to buy the music and have control over it. Unless something is really hard to find on CD or has a crazy used CD price to it because it is rare/out of print, I even prefer to buy the CD and then burn it as an Apple Lossless file instead of a lesser quality mp3 file. Between my Sonos system, the IPod integrated into my car, and my home stereo system, I get tons of use out of the music I buy - so it easily has value to me.
I also enjoy having all my own playlists, not having to listen to ads, and not having to worry about connectivity/service issues - the music I own is truly "on demand".
Paying a service that allows you to stream your own music is silly - you pay for the music multiple times over using that model.
I can still use the free versions of those services, youtube, amazon, and itunes to discover new music.
 
My girlfriend has apple music, and over the past month or two I put together a playlist of about 40 or 50 songs. At some point or another, I already paid for at least half of the songs of the list, whether it be on a cd ten years ago or amazon music a few years ago (i still make my own cds to listen in the car). of the 20 or so songs that I havent purchased, I'd probably spend $1.29 on 15 or so of those.

The only other value I see in the service is the ability to browse though some of the playlists that apple puts together. I've found a couple songs I liked that way, but I'm not sure it provides $10 in value. With that said, my girlfriend is paying for it, not me, so if she wants to spend the money, go for it.
 
Damn that sucks...I just this year bought an Ipod and got rid of my Walkman...Steve Jobs blows.
 
Say you're 25 now. In say in 15 years, if you choose one of the streaming options, you'll have spent around 2 grand on music, and own literally nothing. You probably don't want any of the new crap that's coming out (cue the "Music was better in my day!" crowds), but you're still on the hook for $10+ a month for the rest of your life (at least another 5 grand), or until you lose your hearing so bad that you can't listen to music anymore. That just doesn't seem like a good option to me.
 
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