Question for Eberzz and others re Governor's Ball
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No.
However, I would not let my 16 year old daughter leave the house.
However, I would not let my 16 year old daughter leave the house.
Coming from Philly. Would go up Saturday night and stay in hotel with friends (a friend's father would accompany them), then go to Sunday show. She's a good kid but I worry about the environment. Are there drugs, scummy people, bad shit going on? She acts like it's a bunch of clean cut private school kids just listening to music. I'm not so dumb that I believe that.
I generally feel the same way NBN, but you have to let them out. Otherwise it will only be worse because they 'll rebel and do worse shit.
Private school kids listening to music is code for doing drugs. The Michael move it let her go on the condition you're also going. You can spy on her and get high the entire time while listening to some good music. win-win. Note, I also have a daughter and you need to let her live her life. However, there is zero chance I'd trust another parent to take them under the scenario laid out. You should go. You'll have fun, learn more about you kid in these settings and she won't hate you for saying no. That's your move.
Yes, there are drugs and scummy people. She's going to be in contact with both throughout her life, so it really comes down to the people that she is hanging out with. Can't keep them locked up forever though, so if you trust the father who is accompanying them and your daughter has a good head on her shoulders, I say give the green light. Just 2 short years until she's off to college and on her own. I do like adp's suggestion, maybe reach out to her friend's Dad and see if he wants a hand chaperoning.
The crowd is relatively harmless, particularly on Sunday. Spending the night in NYC she'll be exposed to way more scummy people. Outside of people smoking, there won't be too much evident drug use. As a 16 year old my guess is shes not ignorant to that. As long as you're comfortable with logistics and trust her and the father going with them, there shouldn't be much to worry about. As far as festivals go, Gov Ball is pretty tame. Going to a Phillies or Eagles games is much worse.
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One other thing to keep in mind, this isn't a festival like Bonnaroo or Firefly where they have onsite camping that attracts a more hard-core partying crowd. In that case, I'd be more concerned, even if your daughter was staying off site and only heading in for the music. Basically, she's going to a day long concert in the park, don't consider it a "festival".
agree with NorCal, especially given the sunday attendance. as long as you're comfortable with her logistics getting to/from the festival (ferry/bus/walk to taxi) it's a pretty straight edge crowd all things considered. the sunday lineup is as white bread as you can get for govball so that's not a big issue, guessing lana del rey is the draw here?
i'd let her go.
i'd let her go.
Thanks for the input. Somewhat shocked at the straight answers on Benchwarmers. No one took the discussion into the gutter. Much appreciated.
Maybe it's because many people on here have daughters. I have a couple (oldest about to turn 5) and don't like having to think about decisions like this years down the road. Not as fun to joke about as people not related to you by blood. I'll go put my head back in the sand for now.
Having daughters is great when they're young (easier than boys and love their Daddy's) and old (more likely to stay in touch; my sisters talk to my parents a lot more than I do). But it's a nightmare from the time they're teenagers until they get married (I expect since the 16yo is the oldest of my two girls). Part of me wishes I could put them in a convent, but the rational part of me wants them to be happy, well adjusted women with a healthy attitude towards sex. The hard part is wanting to protect them from all the bad things even though you recognize that you have to let them learn things on their own terms.
And NBN, never doubted the morals. It's just that this is an irreverent place.
I think its a Karma thing. It today's age of social media (tinder, snapchat, instagram), the prospect of having a daughter is truly terrifying (as if that wasn't always the case).
are girls really easier than boys when they are young?
I don't have kids but from everything I've experienced in my own family and with my friends points to the contrary.
I don't have kids but from everything I've experienced in my own family and with my friends points to the contrary.
Easier in the sense that they aren't bouncing of the walls like boys and therefore take less energy as a parent. I'm fortunate in that both of my girls are athletes so I haven't missed out on the sports stuff that is more traditionally father/son.
Girls are different. They are much more emotional but they aren't nut (thnk physically/activity levels) like boys. I love my two boys more than life. I love my little girl harder than I'll ever love my boys.
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Will this change in a few years, when teenage boys start ringing your doorbell with their piggybanks tucked under their arm?
Gov Ball is very calm. I went last year and didn't notice any drug discussion or absurd behavior. The biggest threat to her is boys in the 16-18 year range and they probably have the least access to drugs out of anyone there.
He said she was 16, not 18. I'm not a Duggar over here. Not worried about the karma because I have no plans to get married or have kids...as such, something something have her tied up like Chinese finger traps (again, not thegermans daughter, just 18+ girls everywhere).
Also, if you let her go and everything runs smoothly that'll be a big confidence boost for her on future travels while at the same time allowing you to have all sorts of real conversations w/ her about boys/drugs/keeping your wits about you, while allowing you come off as the coolest dad around. Win win win
I think kindbits nails it above with the idea that she's not going for the full weekend, only really for Sunday which is just like a day watching music in the park. I've been to many festivals and most of them are pretty laid back and I've seen tons of teenagers attending. I think she'll be fine, just tell her to be smart and stay hydrated (this is important).
One other question..... is she generally a responsible kid? My parents are pretty conservative but let me start going to concerts on my own when I turned 16. I was a responsible kid and this was pretty much the first thing I really asked of them that I really wanted to do on my own so they let me start going. Kind of surprises me looking back on it but I'm thankful because I saw some great bands early on and fostered a love of live music that has only grown over the years.
One other question..... is she generally a responsible kid? My parents are pretty conservative but let me start going to concerts on my own when I turned 16. I was a responsible kid and this was pretty much the first thing I really asked of them that I really wanted to do on my own so they let me start going. Kind of surprises me looking back on it but I'm thankful because I saw some great bands early on and fostered a love of live music that has only grown over the years.
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All bois in the Dimer house. adprincess98 will find out about them soon enough - starting forwards for Baker Dunleavy's Final Four team in 2035.
She's a good kid. Decided to let her go, subject to being satisfied with logistics.
I think it's a good move German, should run pretty smoothly.
As an avid concert goer and father to a young daughter, I know this is coming down the line for me as well. My wife already jokes with me asking when I'm taking her to Coachella.
As an avid concert goer and father to a young daughter, I know this is coming down the line for me as well. My wife already jokes with me asking when I'm taking her to Coachella.
We thought about bringing our son (he is 7) with us to Jazzfest last year. We ended up not taking him, mainly because we wanted one last trip to New Orleans filled with debauchery and late nights, but there's a pretty good chance that he'll come with us the next time around. One set of friends did take their kids down with them (3 under the age of 13) and they all had a blast. It's good to expose them to things like that.
Congrats. They need to get through her two older brothers. We have a defined incentive plan around protecting my princess. When that fails I fire with little discretion.
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