I will allow it.Calling people "downies" is a bit much, no?
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I will allow it.Calling people "downies" is a bit much, no?
I won't allow it, but it failed to stand out amongst TMJ's serial mock posting of a deceased poster that he outed.
Other than TGO's inane flame, and a couple of trash-
talk downies, I applaud your general approach. This
thread epitomizes, I think, our schools' relationships.
Our most common cross-applications are these,
not necessarily in order: Boston College, Notre Dame,
Georgetown, Holy Cross, Penn State, Lehigh,
Marquette, Pitt, UCLA, Rutgers, Cornell and, now,
Penn. Moving up: Cal-Berkeley, Northwestern,
Illinois, Carnegie Mellon, Bucknell, Colgate, Miami (OH).
Our "safety" school pool is: Seton Hall, Providence,
Fairfield, Rutgers, Maryland, St. Mary's (Calif.),
Dayton, Duquesne, Fordham, among others.
The "National" term used is not because of graduate
programs -- 'Nova has quite enough of those -- but
because of Ph.D's, a department in which we were
sorely lacking. We're changing that. We've got 3
active Ph. D. programs which are receiving very good
interest with several more in store, that should
change our status with the Carnegie Foundation.
But we are hardly a "regional" school, with 8% each
from the midwest and west, 6% from the south (NOT
including Virginia), 3% foreign and territorial. Fully
one quarter of our students come from outside the
13 contiguous northeastern states (W. Va./Va. to
Maine).
Finally, the pink elephant is as dead as Dan Rather's
career.
In the Class of 2008, fully 16%-plus are members of
the new minorities. 4% are African-American, 6%
Asian, 6% Hispanic and little over half a percent
American Indian/Aleut.
It ain't perfect, but it IS progress. Catholic schools, imo,
should shoot for roughly 20% in this area, give-or-take,
mainly because they're trying to retain an 80%
Catholic population (altho I know G'town breaks the
mold here and is under 60).
But that's today's Villanova. One final pt about the
Carnegie. One bud of mine who knows someone over
there had his pal run V.U.'s academic credentials thru
the C.F. computer pizooker kumquat machine and it
spit out that if V.U. were in the "National" category,
it would be in the low 70s nationally. Not all that
bad, I think you'd admit.
The average SAT for incoming freshmen this year was
1,300, the average ACT 28.5, maybe not exactly
Hoya numbers, but pretty nice, I think.
Finally, with the other 12 existing Big East schools,
Villanova ranks only behind Notre Dame, Georgetown
and Boston College in terms of percentage of student
body that is national in scope.
Sorry for the long, long sociology course. We do have
a somewhat different path in terms of applications,
partly because your non-Catholic numbers are way
higher than ours.
But Villanova and Notre Dame cross-reference a whole
lot, as we do with Boston College and Holy Cross in
particular.
What's all this have to do with our rivalry? I still think
the two schools are largely the same. Both have long
traditions -- yours from 1789, ours from 1842, and
our mission statements are probably pretty close to
identical.
I know you have a financial situation right now and
that concerns me as a major proponent for Catholic
education, because Georgetown is one of the nation's
most recognizable names.
Hang in there, enjoy this basketball season (altho
definitely NOT the second V.U.-G.U. result! ;D).
You're good folks and you deserve a chance to see
your team climb back up the Big East ladder. Hopefully
V.U. and Georgetown will be battling for the top for
many years to come.
b70
I think you're making no sense, don't know if you're being serious or just trolling but you said "Businessweek changed their methodology this year, focusing more on the student experience and the impact our graduates have in the business world." This survey was from Bloomberg. I don't doubt Nova is a good b-school, the accounting and finance grads have a pipeline to the big 4 firms and wall street, and have had great connections for years. Personally I don't give a $hit where people went to school, but I do think it's weird when a school comes out of nowhere to be ranked #1, the same school who had a law school that rigged the rankings. Whatever dude, enjoy being #1, you're still Vanillanova to me and I'll keep my stereotypes and you can keep yours.
So seriously, does temple think they belong on the list?
I get it! Temple people are jealous of nova so they will call us overrated. But do they think they deserve inclusion? Why? Its temple.
Ben Hogan is as overrated at ball striking as you are at trolling lately. Step up your game. This is poor lately. You're losing your edge in the eye of this championship.
Do you still think Businessweek and Bloomberg are different?
I mean you criticized me for the difference. Anyone in the industry knows better. You can at least issue a mea culpa.Do I still give a $hit? They stopped ranking undergrad b-schools didn't they? So much for proving your "anecdotal evidence."
False.Buckeye left the boards after TMJ outed him and then died shortly thereafter, right? Safe to say TMJ cyber bullied him to death?
Serious question.
Look, whether Nova is #1 or #10 or #15 on the list, whatever? Time and time again it comes out with positive reviews on these lists. So I understand Temple's jealousy.
But is Temple really thinking that their business school is comparable to Villanova's? That's the question. Because Temple never registers on this stuff because Temple is a poor man's Rutgers.
Is the Temple argument here really: "Nova is not #1, the list is flawed, so that means Nova is pretty much the same as Temple!"?
Are we going to get the same arguments in hoops next year. "Nova at #2 is OVERRATED, so therefor they are really no better than Temple at #86 in the RPI!"?
Name drops, insults, no #facts, doesn't answer anything. Solid response.Ball, how can you ask a "serious question?" I mean, this whole thread is a joke, $hit, this whole news group is a joke. BW 4.6, compliments of NCAA Ball. I get it, this is all a joke, and so are school rankings of magazines that nobody reads. I find it interesting though, that the people on this newsgroup are really hung up on the perceived quality of a VU education. That really reeks of a complex of some kind.
I'm friends with your school president, an SJU (PA) grad. Great guy, he's taking you guys to new levels since it's dumb to put a priest in charge of a university your size. Sure, you still get the letters from Fr. Peter, but you know who's running the show. And he's a really smart guy and an effective leader. And yet, there are people on this newsgroup who criticized your school's leadership because they had a guy working there from SJU. I know another guy from St. Joe's who is the founder and CEO of a fortune 500 company. Again, I have seen people on the VU message boards put down SJU as an academic institution while singing the praises of Nova. I also remember the law school rankings at VU, which turned out to be a huge mess. Anyhow, there are good students and successful people from a lot of different institutions of higher learning, and you can't paint them all with a broad brush. If my kid had to choose between Nova and Penn as a business major, I would have a hard time turning down the Wharton school. I also have a hard time understanding how your ranking on that list went from #25 to #1, I know Magitti is good, but that's crazy.
Finally, it's good to see that Jay still respects and adores the Big 5 (again, unlike the carpetbaggers on these message boards,) so we can answer the question of who is better when we play you next year.
Happy 4/20 bro!
Serious question.
Ball, please list all of the national recognition (other than this phoney Bloomberg list that even Bloomberg won't stand behind) that the Villanova business school has received in the last year.
I only ask because I am very interested.
Serious question.
Ball, please list all of the national recognition (other than this phoney Bloomberg list that even Bloomberg won't stand behind) that the Villanova business school has received in the last year.
I only ask because I am very interested.
That one was mostly me. Trying to channel ole Paulie.He does make a lot of spelling mistakes for a journalist.
Serious question.
Ball, please list all of the national recognition (other than this phoney Bloomberg list that even Bloomberg won't stand behind) that the Villanova business school has received in the last year.
I only ask because I am very interested.
Flawed. Where's Temple??