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NickleDimer said:
Surely if these swine were making such a ludicrous above-market wage they could easily be replaced the second they walk out the door, right? How common is it for teachers to strike? I would say that about half of CoP area districts are operating under an expired contract.
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Strikes happen quite often in the area of PA where I grew up. And teachers cannot simply be replaced if they strike. This is not a "Ronald Reagan fires the air traffic controllers" type of situation.

And to adp's point, the teacher's union is one of the most powerful (if not THE most powerful) special interests in the state of Pennsylvania. Their boy Tommy Wolf is bought and paid for, hence his mantra about "fully funding education."

The funniest thing was that the union was all over Rob McCord's jock until he was exposed as a criminal and a fraud. Didn't see too many "PSEA for McCord" lawn signs after that.

But I digress. We were discussing middle class jobs. Since according to you, I do not favor "the proper funding of education" that must mean that I want my children to be uneducated and unemployable. All we need to do is pump more tax dollars into that black hole and everything will be gr8!
 
They do fine. I have relatives who are teachers who bitch and complain that they are actually expected to pay premiums. The horror! Health care is supposed to be free!
 
If we double those salaries, will our precious children receive an education that is twice as gr8 as the one that they receive now?

Because we all know that "fully funding education" is the easy solution to this complex problem!
 
I like how a backdoor mention of Obama's community college funding idea sent NC94 into a foaming mouth rage about primary school teacher salaries. He may not even know what higher education means.

It's like going bass fishing and catching a lake monster.
 
Novacatt94 said:
If we double those salaries, will our precious children receive an education that is twice as gr8 as the one that they receive now?
Because we all know that "fully funding education" is the easy solution to this complex problem!
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I don't know whether or not I would describe my child as "precious", but it would be nice if the elementary school across the street from my house received funds sufficient to buy proper supplies for the staff and students. This is not the case currently.

In addition, yes, if you pay teachers higher salaries, you will almost certainly attract a more talented pool of candidates to educate our "precious children".
 
Novacatt94 said:
There he is. The master of the straw man argument.
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Exactly. He's still funny. The issue is what do kids see at home. If kids see parents who get up and go to work and demonstrate the important of education and work, they are more likely to be successful. If they see parents who aren't around, don't go to work or value being productive members of society they are likely going to struggle in life. It's much more important than just throwing more money at the problem. Talk to teachers and they will tell you the same. We spend plenty of money on education in this country. The issue isn't lack of funds. That's always the liberal answer, just spend more money. I saw it first hand growing up with a bunch of poor kids in WV. My two best friends, who I will be spending a week with soon, both came from single parent homes with no money. However, they had mothers who demanded they learn despite their financial lots in life. They are both successful doctors and it's not because they were born into opportunities. My best friend had a father who loved the sauce and was told to leave and never return when he was 3. His mother made maybe $30K as a secretary at the VA. However, she went to work everyday and made sure my buddy stayed in line as best she could. And it wasn't easy because we were a handful growing up. Similar deal with my other buddy and many kids from my town. It's about what these kids see at home, not how much you spend.
 
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Exactly. He's still funny. The issue is what do kids see at home. If kids see parents who get up and go to work and demonstrate the important of education and work, they are more likely to be successful. If they see parents who aren't around, don't go to work or value being productive members of society they are likely going to struggle in life. It's much more important than just throwing more money at the problem. Talk to teachers and they will tell you the same. We spend plenty of money on education in this country. The issue isn't lack of funds. That's always the liberal answer, just spend more money. I saw it first hand growing up with a bunch of poor kids in WV. My two best friends, who I will be spending a week with soon, both came from single parent homes with no money. However, they had mothers who demanded they learn despite their financial lots in life. They are both successful doctors and it's not because they were born into opportunities. My best friend had a father who loved the sauce and was told to leave and never return when he was 3. His mother made maybe $30K as a secretary at the VA. However, she went to work everyday and made sure my buddy stayed in line as best she could. And it wasn't easy because we were a handful growing up. Similar deal with my other buddy and many kids from my town. It's about what these kids see at home, not how much you spend.
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One of your childhood best friends is Dr. Ben Carson? TJC will LOVE that.
 
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adp98 said:
I like what you did there. However, be careful as the PC police will come get you. Oh wait, poor white trash is fair game. Cap tip.
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Ha ha....

For the record, I'm with you on Cowherd.
 
ADP, i think your points really ring true. The truth is, if you are born into a certain demographic, you most likely stay there - unless you have a single parent who can rise above the odds.
 
"these are many of the persons who are telling the Negro that he should lift himself by his own bootstraps. A wonderful thing. I guess that it is alright to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. Through centuries of denial, centuries of neglect, and centuries of injustice many, many Negroes have been left bootless. This does not mean that we do nothing for ourselves. It does not mean that we should not amass our economic and political resources to reach our legitimate goals. It simply means recognizing, the nation recognizing, that it owes a great debt on the basis of the injustices of the past."
 
NickleDimer said:
"these are many of the persons who are telling the Negro that he should lift himself by his own bootstraps. A wonderful thing. I guess that it is alright to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. Through centuries of denial, centuries of neglect, and centuries of injustice many, many Negroes have been left bootless. This does not mean that we do nothing for ourselves. It does not mean that we should not amass our economic and political resources to reach our legitimate goals. It simply means recognizing, the nation recognizing, that it owes a great debt on the basis of the injustices of the past."
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The bootless Negroes have been replaced by the Air Jordan Negroes and they're still not happy!
 
NickleDimer said:
I like how a backdoor mention of Obama's community college funding idea sent NC94 into a foaming mouth rage about primary school teacher salaries. He may not even know what higher education means.

It's like going bass fishing and catching a lake monster.
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"Foaming mouth rage?"

More like I questioned your assertion that pumping tens of millions of dollars into "properly funding education" will somehow create jobs that pay a living wage.

If you are not aware of the level of political influence that teachers unions have then I don't know what to tell you.

And how that somehow translates into "not knowing what higher education means" is baffling.
 
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RSTRICK30 said:
I don't know whether or not I would describe my child as "precious", but it would be nice if the elementary school across the street from my house received funds sufficient to buy proper supplies for the staff and students. This is not the case currently.

In addition, yes, if you pay teachers higher salaries, you will almost certainly attract a more talented pool of candidates to educate our "precious children".
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Where do you live? Harlem? North Philly? I find it hard to believe that a typical suburban school district has its children writing on scraps of paper because they don't receive sufficient funds to buy notebooks and pencils.

And even if your assumption is correct, attracting a more talented pool of candidates in no way guarantees that a higher quality education will be provided or that higher paying jobs will be available.

All of this is in response to the assertion that "fully funding education" is the solution that will create good jobs
 
NickleDimer said:
Nc94 still foaming at the mouth about teacher salaries when that is besides the point.
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"Properly funding education" is beside the point, although it works nicely as a liberal Dem talking point.

And I am foaming at the mouth over Queeny's no-hitter.
 
I went back to look for where I typed the phrase "properly funding education", as your quotation would imply that I said it directly. Couldn't find it. Was it rstrick? Or Did I get blackout drunk and text it to you?

That was queeny's biggest queen move. After years of prancing and pouting around the mound, he finally nuts up and reaches his peak of dominance right before he leaves. It would be like if Trump exited the president race right now before he is about to burn the GoP to the ground.
 
NickleDimer said:
Updated rankings:
1. Donald Trump
1a. Jeb Bush
2. Scott Walker
3. Randy Paul
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Yet again, NickleDimer has his finger on the pulse of the GoP nation:

Latest polls:
1. Trump - 20%
2. Bush - 16%
3. Scott Walker - 12%
4. Randy Paul - 9%

I have been contacted by Nate Silver to take over his fivethirtyeight after he leaves to go work with Bill Simmons.
 
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