Nola called up - splash them keyboards
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Nice. He was rocked last night in AAA. I will take it, at least it adds some excitement to the rest of the season.
NickleDimer
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Desperate move by a GM that is desperately trying to prove to everyone that he has some type of plan to salvage this.
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Won't have to sign another washed up veteran (is Russ Ortiz in game shape?) to clog up the rotation.
He's the 38th ranked prospect in baseball, he doesn't suck. He's just not a guy a Harvey, Fernandez, etc sure-fire top of the rotation type. No reason to think that he can't be a Jordan Zimmerman type down the road.
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I'm confused. The Phillies rebuilding involves actual players who are not injured? How does that work?
Let's not put Harvey up there with Fernandez. Maybe Harvey should worry about pitching instead of chumming it up with the Donald.
Obviously, not going to pitch exactly in the same manner. I mean more of place in one's rotation and statistically speaking. Also, all accounts are that he knows how to pitch as well as anyone in MLs right now. If you know what you're doing you can still be good with topping out at 93 and averaging 91 on your fastball. Jesus Christ, Doug Fister gets people out and doesn't break 88.
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No, his potential is much better than Worley/Kendrick, but he's not a Hamels-like talent.
But you should tell us. You went to Reading to watch him, right?
speaking of Hamles where does he fit among the leagues best pitchers?
is Hamels even considered an elite pitcher or is he just in the good tier?
is Hamels even considered an elite pitcher or is he just in the good tier?
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He's in the back end of what I would consider and "Ace". ERA around 3 or less. Roughly a K per inning. His stuff isn't overpowering, but hes got an amazing changeup. He's very steady and healthy.
Yes and Fisyet. Zimmerman is a front end starter which Nola is not. So move along.
QUOTE="wcburrs87, post: 145395, member: 1088"]Obviously, not going to pitch exactly in the same manner. I mean more of place in one's rotation and statistically speaking. Also, all accounts are that he knows how to pitch as well as anyone in MLs right now. If you know what you're doing you can still be good with topping out at 93 and averaging 91 on your fastball. Jesus Christ, Doug Fister gets people out and doesn't break 88.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE="wcburrs87, post: 145395, member: 1088"]Obviously, not going to pitch exactly in the same manner. I mean more of place in one's rotation and statistically speaking. Also, all accounts are that he knows how to pitch as well as anyone in MLs right now. If you know what you're doing you can still be good with topping out at 93 and averaging 91 on your fastball. Jesus Christ, Doug Fister gets people out and doesn't break 88.[/QUOTE]
This follows in your tradition of calling Okafor a wasted draft pick before he ever plays a real game. I have no idea how Nola will fare in the bigs, and neither do you. Can we stop with the Mel Kiper "Rate the draft before they play" schtick? Maybe you should add this - "Sometimes wrong, but never in doubt" to your signature on these types of posts?
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You continue to talk in absolutes. Please, knock it off. Zimmerman is not a consistent frontline starter. He's had some moments, but nothing consistent. He's been more of a #2 thru age 29.
Oh yea, hopefully you allow Nola parts of three seasons to develop. You know, since JZ didn't exactly light the league on fire over his first 3 seasons.
Not surprised that ADP is overrating another Nats player.
Speaking of absolutes. Let's revisit this ADP beauty from a few months ago.
"Ian Desmond will be a 100 million dollars to be a team's SS."
Thru 84 games,,,
.211/.255/.589
7 HRs, 24 RBIs
17 walks - 99 strikeouts.
20 fukking errors (Is it still considered early?)
"Ian Desmond will be a 100 million dollars to be a team's SS."
Thru 84 games,,,
.211/.255/.589
7 HRs, 24 RBIs
17 walks - 99 strikeouts.
20 fukking errors (Is it still considered early?)
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Wait.... TWENTY ERRORS?
What a butcher. He is seriously lacking in the Natitude department.
Nope. I'm one of the more reasonable and educated fans this city has to offer.
See, I can say that Nola has a chance to be pretty good without acting like Tom Seaver is headed here.
Let's compare rhe guy whom projects as a 3 to a Frontline starter. OK. And I'm the guy jumping the gun. Splashing those keyboards.
Tom, Okafor is getting his shot blocked in summer league. Not a good sign ad he's going to struggle against better athletes his own size
Tom, Okafor is getting his shot blocked in summer league. Not a good sign ad he's going to struggle against better athletes his own size
Zimmerman is not a #1. I don't care how many times the kids run around the dining room table. Or, how many times you use the word frontline.
Nola could very easily be a good #2. And no one (Find it) characterizes him as a soft tosser.
You're right they should just boot Okafor from the league because a 7'1" kid with a good wing span blocked his shots a few times. Way to base a 19-year old kid's potential on NBA summer league games. Oh yea, based on that D. Russell should of been drafted in the 2nd RD.
Nola could very easily be a good #2. And no one (Find it) characterizes him as a soft tosser.
You're right they should just boot Okafor from the league because a 7'1" kid with a good wing span blocked his shots a few times. Way to base a 19-year old kid's potential on NBA summer league games. Oh yea, based on that D. Russell should of been drafted in the 2nd RD.
Keep hangin your hat on a summer league game. I will wait and see what happens over the next few years. I saw lebron get multiple shots blocked by iggy in the finals. He's still the best in the world. I will judge okafor after a few years, but less than 18 of them.