Putin rubbing Obama's nose in it again

[ericw]

Happening now, Putin levels ISIS command center and training camp.

good to hear. in other news, Obama admits he has been totally ineffective in rallying anyone to pass stricter gun laws.

 

[nardibynature123]

FYI - we are energy independent today

BTW, this is why I hate politics. We have every right wing nut watching fox news blaming the situation on Obama and every left wing nut watching MSNBC blaming it on Bush. We're where we are. Both parties have made horrible decisions since 9/11. That's OK, we're learning. What's best for our country moving forward

Hey tjc.

 

[spg109876ers]

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[nardibynature123]

good to hear. in other news, liberal semantics.

fixed.

 

[VUWildCat2003]

Sounds like he's really Putin us on, eh?

I have been on this board for going on 12 years. This is by far the best post I have ever read on here. EVER. STANDING O! Keep up the good work.

 

[adp98]

Where did you read that, on here?

Peggy Noonan today's WSJ. She's one of my favorites.

 

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[NickleDimer]

Note, I'm far from a foreign affairs expert.

 

[PeterN]

If the Ottoman Empire was still in business we would not have these problems.

 

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[ericw]

If the Ottoman Empire was still in business we would not have these problems.

alas all that remains:

 

[adp98]

E, I think we can all agree a nice Ottoman is underrated.

 

[cleanwave]

Spg,

Not going to work w/Pope vs Russia. Putin is heavily aligned with Russian Orthodox Church.

Whereas Soviet Union was Godless.

 

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[cleanwave]

Christians/ Catholics were getting slaughtered by almost all "rebels" groups, some of which our CIA has been helping.( Iraq & Syria)

Putin & Russia are actually now protecting the Christians & have 100% backing from Russian Orthodox Church.

(That's also why he was extra vengeful when "pussy dolls" rebeled in church.

 

[NickleDimer]

alas all that remains:

 

[Nova98]

Pull up one of these (they change day-to-day) and tell me how you're going to ride in there and "fix" it…

No problem:

 

[bgranc02]

I think Putin’s actions in Syria are really being used to 1) deflect attention away from the Ukraine (where he has “won”) 2) deflect attention away from him stealing his citizen’s money again.

So perhaps he is “winning” and achieving those “objectives.” But are you a legit superpower when you are stealing your own people’s pension money? I think the Putin wins, Obama loses” rhetoric reflects a very partisan view and to view Syria through that lens is to miss much of the complexities. Russia will not be clearing Syria anytime soon or ever IMO. I saw a great quote today (maybe yesterday?), “his people want butter and he is giving them guns.”

That also doesn’t suggest I think Obama has made the right moves... I don't. I just think that its really hard to discuss Syria without getting into the history and impact of Iraq on what is going on now. This isn’t a Bruuuuce song with clear winners and losers.

 

[TwoDecks]

I saw a great quote today (maybe yesterday?), “his people want butter and he is giving them guns.”

That also doesn’t suggest I think Obama has made the right moves... I don't. I just think that its really hard to discuss Syria without getting into the history and impact of Iraq on what is going on now. This isn’t a Bruuuuce song with clear winners and losers.

He's done a GREAT job of screwing his people over AND making them love him.

 

[bgranc02]

For sure... you just wonder if at some point there is blow back and the patriotic propaganda he stirs up stops working. WSJ Russian Economy Outlook

 

[catFANatic80]

I'd argue we didn't even learn from our own original afghan experience... Let alone the Russian experience. For the very reasons you illustrate in your second paragraph. Exact scenario that helped create the environment for al Qaeda and 9/11

I'd argue we didn't learn anything from our experience in Vietnam.

 

[catFANatic80]

Peggy Noonan today's WSJ. She's one of my favorites.

You actually publicly admit to this?

 

[boomie]

"He's done a GREAT job of screwing his people over AND making them love him."
Now, if only the US leaders could learn how to do this.

 

[KennyTheKangaroo]

I love the WSJ but Peggy Noonan is a loony toon.

 

[ericw]

"He's done a GREAT job of screwing his people over AND making them love him."
Now, if only the US leaders could learn how to do this.

most politicians consider it success if they can do one of those two things.

 

[ericw]

You actually publicly admit to this?

he is saying that he likes Peggy in a "wanna git wit dat" way.

 

[adp98]

Peggy Noonan is awesome.

 

[NickleDimer]

Anyone who rubbed elbows with Reagan is an infallible saint.

 

[cleanwave]

Pretty sharp analysis by potential Noooner..see what I did there?

 

[LizReed]

What did you do there?

 

[cleanwave]

Reference Eric's post

 

[NickleDimer]

What you did was lame. No one wanted to see it, so please don't ask them to see it.

 

[cleanwave]

Ok robot

 

[nardibynature123]

Anyone who rubbed elbows with Reagan is an infallible saint.

Hillary Clinton donor over here.

 

[NickleDimer]

It's days like this when I wish we had a doctor leading our nation. He would heal this situation...

 

[NickleDimer]

Hillary Clinton donor over here.

As if I'd donate my money to anything. I got jorts n jordans to pay for, bruh.

 

[catFANatic80]

Peggy Noonan is awesome.

And I bet you find Cokie Roberts simply scintillating.

 

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[cleanwave]

There still is a decent % of the U.S. Population that doesn't acknowledge we live on a planet with other Nations that can be our equal.

Obama admin was never serious about fully going after ISIS & every serviceman I talked to echoed this.

Putin is serious about keeping Syria intact & don't be surprised when China helps out.