He could have been better than Jack but he doesn't give a damn!
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Tiger Woods
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good, he is a total fraud and remember the days when golf would never survive without him? if Tiger never plays again golf will be just fine. thanks to Speith and Rory. there is always someone to carry the flag.
kind of early for this call, given that tiger is the only guy who has ever really carried the golf flag in a meaningful, mainstream fashion
spieth and rory leave a lot of (the fastest growing piece of) our demographics unaddressed
Open Question:
As of right now, would you trade lives with Tiger Woods? The whole thing. Lack of a childhood, domineering father, money and fame, no friends, Stanford degree, world-renowned crybaby, banging high end prostitutes up the butt, insomnia/ambien addiction, multiple surgeries, sweet yacht, and now basically not being able to play golf ever again.
I think I'm 50/50.
As of right now, would you trade lives with Tiger Woods? The whole thing. Lack of a childhood, domineering father, money and fame, no friends, Stanford degree, world-renowned crybaby, banging high end prostitutes up the butt, insomnia/ambien addiction, multiple surgeries, sweet yacht, and now basically not being able to play golf ever again.
I think I'm 50/50.
What Tiger did was bring young people into golf. People have this sense he integrated the game or the fan base. golf is still a bunch of rich white suburban dudes playing the game, except now its rich white kids playing the game. People try golf and realize, one, its really hard. two its really expensive. so maybe he brought people to the game that no one else would have but did he keep them?
Speith is far more relatable to golf fans than Tiger ever was. Tiger was must see golf in his prime but how many people actually liked him? they just liked watching him play. people love Speith. he is only 21 and will be around for a long time. its his era now. Tigers has passed.
Speith is far more relatable to golf fans than Tiger ever was. Tiger was must see golf in his prime but how many people actually liked him? they just liked watching him play. people love Speith. he is only 21 and will be around for a long time. its his era now. Tigers has passed.
Good question. I'm a solid no.
Its the friends and childhood that would get me.
F the Stanford degree and yacht. Those are non-factors in my eyes.
I too can bang high end prostitutes. He certainly would pull better tail than i could, but how much do you hate the person next to you after you shoot anyway? As long as you're getting somewhat laid, it doesnt get exponentially better.
The money is the biggest draw. But i do fine and im a nobody. And ive got a shit ton of friends and a lot of good memories with them. Not a bunch of professional accomplishments that i look back on with fondness.
A private jet would be the tits though.
So, no. Id rather be Mr. Wade Garrett than Tiger Woods.
I personally never cheered for Tiger but I know several and would venture to guess that a sh!t-ton of people absolutely adored him ... right up until the news of the night Elin was standing next to his crashed Escalade with a golf club.
It means I respect Woods' achievements and I watch most majors, but I have never hoped he would win tournaments. I was probably rooting against him most times. It comes from being around annoying people who blindly loved Tiger.
And then - it was laughable that the same people who used to squeal with glee when he won completely flip-flop and hate him because of his personal problems.
There wasn't a person watching the masters in 1997 who didn't root for him on Sunday. After a few major wins he turned into the Yankees/Duke/Patriots of golf, you either blindly loved his dominance or you hate him because of it.
I'd take his life. The tough parts of his life were minimal when you look at it over the long haul. He's going to ride off into the sunset and become a more likeable figure because he doesn't have to maintain that intense, sometimes crybaby, attitude.
I'd take his life. The tough parts of his life were minimal when you look at it over the long haul. He's going to ride off into the sunset and become a more likeable figure because he doesn't have to maintain that intense, sometimes crybaby, attitude.
awesome question, merc. He's a sourpuss. Who would want to be a sourpuss their whole lives? Not me. I could use a few extra bucks in the bank, though.
He may be a sourpuss, but I guess the question is this: why is he a sourpuss? Because his life is so stressful? Because he is a malcontent? Or may he was just born a jagoff. Or maybe a combination of all of the above
NickleDimer
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How annoying would it be to f*ck up at work and in your personal life for like 10 straight years and have it televised to the world? And have everyone you see know all about it. And to top it off, you're balding badly and can't grow a decent goatee.
I would take Tiger's life just so I, like him, could come up with great nicknames for my "friends" / coworkers.
My favorite will always be: "Here you go Weirsie!"
I'd like to believe that Weir responded, "Thanks Tige-y!"
I'd like to believe that Weir responded, "Thanks Tige-y!"
I always thought it strange that his best friend on tour was Mark O'meara.
At one time Tiger slammed the Ryder Cup because there wasn't any money involved; now he is an assistant captain of the
2016 team. Just what does he bring to the table? He isn't the person Jack is, and he wasn't the player Hogan was. Serious
golf writers are panning Steve Williams , Tiger's carrier, and his new book. Steve makes big bucks carrying his bag, and now
he pans Tiger. Some one should have thrown Steve into a lake.
He brings his special brand of light hearted banter.
And hookers. He can find the girls in Minnesota that Charlie Sheen hasn't.
And hookers. He can find the girls in Minnesota that Charlie Sheen hasn't.
so tiger brought new people to golf, and spieth/rory are more relatable to current golf fans... that's not exactly "carrying the flag"
carrying the flag, to me, is continuing what tiger did by spreading the game, growing the fan base, leading to more attention/sponsorship/resources and likely a healthier sport. riding the residual popularity wave of tiger as it gently fades and the game returns to a super-niche rich white guy sport is not
of course, if youre already a golf fan and living in the moment, you dont care about that. nothing wrong with that either, i would just disagree that we have guys in the pen that can "carry the flag" like tiger did
Saying McElroy and Speith can pick up where tiger left off is like saying Dwayne wade and Chauncey billups wee adequate replacements for michael Jordan.
But ultimately so many people play golf that it will always have a strong enough following. But for the casual fans, who really weren't watching anything but majors anyway, it won't be the same.
But ultimately so many people play golf that it will always have a strong enough following. But for the casual fans, who really weren't watching anything but majors anyway, it won't be the same.
In a way, you can argue that Tiger did some things to harm the game as well.
He was certainly part of golf's boom years in the 1990s and early 2000s. A lot of golf courses were built in that time, and a lot of people picked up the game. Unfortunately a lot of those courses were too expensive, too hard, or took too long to play. At this point, more golf courses are closing than opening at this point. Now that the building boom is busted, there is a glut of hard to maintain and hard to play courses. You can argue Tiger's popularity fed into the building boom
He was certainly part of golf's boom years in the 1990s and early 2000s. A lot of golf courses were built in that time, and a lot of people picked up the game. Unfortunately a lot of those courses were too expensive, too hard, or took too long to play. At this point, more golf courses are closing than opening at this point. Now that the building boom is busted, there is a glut of hard to maintain and hard to play courses. You can argue Tiger's popularity fed into the building boom
seriously clark? you're going to pin obvious over-development on Tiger? everyone knew the risk involved in running a golf course before tiger came around. failure by the developers to do their due diligence and all that is not on the guy that made the game popular to the masses
KTK, you can definitely argue that but the down turn had more to do with the economy then anything else. There is no doubt that the boom had was correlated to Tiger, i was just disagree on the decline/overdevelopment
I've said this before about Tiger, he's probably left a great marker on his sport then any other athlete has. From the boom in golf course, to the tiger generation in golf now, to the equipment being cheaper and more readily available. When i first started playing a pair of golf shoes was around $200 and you'd have to go to a small golf store (larry's golf for those who are lucky enough to live in BC) for equipment. Last year I bought a pair of m-projects for $50 and can walk into a golf superstore like golfsmith or even dicks and get a decent set of irons for under $500. The game has never more accessible thanks to Tiger...but yes its still expensive.
I've said this before about Tiger, he's probably left a great marker on his sport then any other athlete has. From the boom in golf course, to the tiger generation in golf now, to the equipment being cheaper and more readily available. When i first started playing a pair of golf shoes was around $200 and you'd have to go to a small golf store (larry's golf for those who are lucky enough to live in BC) for equipment. Last year I bought a pair of m-projects for $50 and can walk into a golf superstore like golfsmith or even dicks and get a decent set of irons for under $500. The game has never more accessible thanks to Tiger...but yes its still expensive.
NickleDimer
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Come on people, I'm not saying he is the sole reason for the boom/bust. That being said, you can't dispute that he had an outsize influence on the economics of the sport. He was the highest paid athlete in the world ten years in a row. He is the reason that golf purses went through the roof. He is the reason Nike got into golf equipment. He made the golf channel a legitimate, must have cable channel.
I'm not suggesting that he was the cause of the bust, but I am suggesting the was a significant participant in the boom.
I'm not suggesting that he was the cause of the bust, but I am suggesting the was a significant participant in the boom.
Tiger raised golf's profile among general sport fans and sports media. Before him, it wasn't often that a golfer got on the cover of SI or that they showed highlights on SportsCenter.
But, I would argue that the Universal/NBC/Comcast deal made the Golf Channel to what it is now, same with Verses (NBCSN). The PGA tour deal in 2007 and now the coverage it has for Majors has secured its place as a must have channel.
But, I would argue that the Universal/NBC/Comcast deal made the Golf Channel to what it is now, same with Verses (NBCSN). The PGA tour deal in 2007 and now the coverage it has for Majors has secured its place as a must have channel.
Hmm ... so Tiger is responsible for the over-construction of golf courses.
I think Callaway and Taylor Made are more to blame. They made beautiful old courses obsolete for anyone young enough to get a full turn in their backswing.
Do you ever wish your name weren’t Tiger?
Put it this way. I’m glad my dad didn’t name me Richard. That would be a long day. Tiger is O.K., but Richard would have been tough.
Put it this way. I’m glad my dad didn’t name me Richard. That would be a long day. Tiger is O.K., but Richard would have been tough.