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NBA Trade Deadline Thread

I would prefer that they meet the floor with actual promising player salaries. I guess if there are none, you can eat a contract and get a second rounder so that you can offer the Kris Jenkinses of the world non-guaranteed contracts at the rookie minimum. That strategy is bound to return a star player inside of 50 years. By then the franchise will be established in Austin or Seattle.
 
Noel outplayed by Gortat again. Can't blame Okfaor for this one, he didn't play last night.
 
CWertz said:
Noel outplayed by Gortat again. Can't blame Okfaor for this one, he didn't play last night.
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What's the point of this?

For starters, Gortat is a good player. He's extremely strong and experienced. Quite capable of doing very good things on a nightly basis. Oh yea, not bad to have John Wall running the show out there.

Also, Gortat didn't do squat in this league until age 26 and after three years of being in the NBA.
 
NickleDimer said:
I would prefer that they meet the floor with actual promising player salaries. I guess if there are none, you can eat a contract and get a second rounder so that you can offer the Kris Jenkinses of the world non-guaranteed contracts at the rookie minimum. That strategy is bound to return a star player inside of 50 years. By then the franchise will be established in Austin or Seattle.
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Austin/Seattle isn't happening in our lifetime, so I'm not really worried about it.

Again, when the time is right, maybe this summer, then the money/transactions will be made to take this to the next phase. Until then, don't watch it.

Why do you guys waste your time, if you despise it this much? I never understood that.
 
Burrs5 said:
What's the point of this?

For starters, Gortat is a good player. He's extremely strong and experienced. Quite capable of doing very good things on a nightly basis. Oh yea, not bad to have John Wall running the show out there.

Also, Gortat didn't do squat in this league until age 26 and after three years of being in the NBA.
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The point being that if Noel outplayed him you would be posting on here about it.
 
nardibynature2 said:
The point being that if Noel outplayed him you would be posting on here about it.
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Please, when is the last time I did that? Ever? C'mon, Nardi. You're better than this. Yea, I come on here all of the time boasting about a Sixer outplaying someone in an 8-win season to date. Get real, bro.
 
Burrs5 said:
Also, Gortat didn't do squat in this league until age 26 and after three years of being in the NBA.
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That's intellectually dishonest. He didn't do anything because he was stuck behind Dwight howard in Orlando.
 
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That's intellectually dishonest. He didn't do anything because he was stuck behind Dwight howard in Orlando.
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So what? He was barely a back-up. He's carved out a nice career. I think he's a good player. My point is that sometimes it takes time to reach your ceiling and/or develop. Of course, the Sixers players need to be AS at age 21 for the agenda crowd.

I still don't get the point of the original post.
 
NickleDimer said:
You mean they can get a guy like Gortat for the money that they paid Kirilenko to not play last year?
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Not really. Paying guys 60 million over 5 years isn't the same as taking a salary for on season. And I have no problem with someone like Gortat getting that kind of money from someone like WAS who thought they had a chance to get to the EC finals prior to this season. However, the Sixers doing it wouldn't have made a lot of sense. He'll be 36 at the end of that contract.
 
Burrs5 said:
What's the point of this?

For starters, Gortat is a good player. He's extremely strong and experienced. Quite capable of doing very good things on a nightly basis. Oh yea, not bad to have John Wall running the show out there.

Also, Gortat didn't do squat in this league until age 26 and after three years of being in the NBA.
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Point is, Noel is suppose to be a defensive specialist and rebounder but an average center like Gortat gets 18 and 20 on him and Noel of course doesn't come close to matching him on the offensive end.
 
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CWertz said:
Point is, Noel is suppose to be a defensive specialist and rebounder but an average center like Gortat gets 18 and 20 on him and Noel of course doesn't come close to matching him on the offensive end.
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It's one game. He's 21. Gortat is a 32-year old, extremely strong player. Noel barely played in 1st half due to foul trouble.

Did you watch? Or look at box score? Be honest.

But you're right. Noel is at his physical ceiling at 21.
 
NickleDimer said:
I just saw a highlight of Wall blowing past "elite rim protector" Nerlens Noel for an easy two handed dunk.
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Watch WAS highlights every night and you'll see it over again and again. He's at an all-time level right now. Yawn.
 
Come on burrs, the point is Noel is never going to be worth all the tanking it took to get him. You act like Hinkle is some sort of genius. Any moron can lose on purpose. It was an awful year to tank, the year they took Noel. Embiid may or may not play and so far Okafor has been solid. Three tanked draft picks and all you show for it is a "rim protector" and a solid offensive big man?
 
CWertz said:
Come on burrs, the point is Noel is never going to be worth all the tanking it took to get him. You act like Hinkle is some sort of genius. Any moron can lose on purpose. It was an awful year to tank, the year they took Noel. Embiid may or may not play and so far Okafor has been solid. Three tanked draft picks and all you show for it is a "rim protector" and a solid offensive big man?
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Never called Hinkie a genius. I have always stated that nothing else has worked, so why not.

Hinkie wasn't in place the season before the Noel draft. He came on board after season, before draft. No tank then. Just bad. Remember they only had 11th pick entering that draft.
 
Burrs5 said:
Never called Hinkie a genius. I have always stated that nothing else has worked, so why not.

Hinkie wasn't in place the season before the Noel draft. He came on board after season, before draft. No tank then. Just bad. Remember they only had 11th pick entering that draft.
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They need to pray to God they get Simmons and he's a stud.
 
NickleDimer said:
Did they tank for a decade to get him?
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Who has tanked for a decade?

They did get lucky, tho. I think they had the 4th-6th pick and ended up with the top pick (Wall). They won 26 games that year. The year before 19.

Wall's first three years they won 23-20-29 games. They had a #1 pick, (2) #3 picks (Beal & Porter), and the 6th pick (Veasey, can't get them all right) in four consecutive drafts.

After Wall was here for a few years, then they started making trades for inside help, ie Nene & Gortat. Added Pierce in there.

Had two good years 44 & 46 wins and this year are below .500, struggling to make playoffs.

It's not as easy as you guys think.
 
Burrs5 said:
Who has tanked for a decade?

They did get lucky, tho. I think they had the 4th-6th pick and ended up with the top pick (Wall). They won 26 games that year. The year before 19.

Wall's first three years they won 23-20-29 games. They had a #1 pick, (2) #3 picks (Beal & Porter), and the 6th pick (Veasey, can't get them all right) in four consecutive drafts.

After Wall was here for a few years, then they started making trades for inside help, ie Nene & Gortat. Added Pierce in there.

Had two good years 44 & 46 wins and this year are below .500, struggling to make playoffs.

It's not as easy as you guys think.
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Right but isn't that the point against all of the tanking? Your chances of being great are slim even if you tank for many years.
 
CWertz said:
Right but isn't that the point against all of the tanking? Your chances of being great are slim even if you tank for many years.
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Your chances of getting a great player are also higher at the top of the draft.

Also, if you're not any good, then you can't get a good player to come to your city without a foundation in place. However, if you acquire enough young players, picks, keep CAP SPACE available, then maybe you can do more via trades. Maybe, you can sign an impactful FA after you trade for one. I don't know. Again, it's not easy.

The Sixers could very easily go out and win 35-40 games next year if they want to. Just overpay a few 2nd/3rd tier FAs and that can happen. I'm sure this will make some on here very happy. Then again, they probably find something else to bitch about.
 
I'm on board for signing some free agents and attempting to not be a bottom 4 NBA team while waiting to hit the REAL lottery (aka a non-top-5 pick star like Curry, Kobe, Kawhi, Klay, Draymond, Kyle, Paul George, etc). That would make me very happy.

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He needs to do something since his cameo in the Entourage Movie.
 
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QUOTE="Burrs5, post: 432726, member: 5018"]Your chances of getting a great player are also higher at the top of the draft.

Also, if you're not any good, then you can't get a good player to come to your city without a foundation in place. However, if you acquire enough young players, picks, keep CAP SPACE available, then maybe you can do more via trades. Maybe, you can sign an impactful FA after you trade for one. I don't know. Again, it's not easy.

The Sixers could very easily go out and win 35-40 games next year if they want to. Just overpay a few 2nd/3rd tier FAs and that can happen. I'm sure this will make some on here very happy. Then again, they probably find something else to bitch about.[/QUOTE]
Yes but in the process you are killing the sport in your town. It's already considered a pretty minor sport compared to the Eagles. If they think you are not trying to win, that will make things worse.
 
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Cwertz, they were mediocre (a few years) since AI title run anyway.

They will always be below the Eagles. That's not changing.

If they are ever viable these tanking years would be forgotten and the barn would be full for a contending team. That's just how the majority of people in this city roll.

I think you'll see a shift in strategy this summer and many have always believed this the offseason that things would start to look different. We'll see.
 
Burrs5 said:
Cwertz, they were mediocre (a few years) since AI title run anyway.

They will always be below the Eagles. That's not changing.

If they are ever viable these tanking years would be forgotten and the barn would be full for a contending team. That's just how the majority of people in this city roll.

I think you'll see a shift in strategy this summer and many have always believed this the offseason that things would start to look different. We'll see.
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So the majority of Philly fans are fair-weather/bandwagon fans? I'm stunned you admit this as we know it's especially true of the Sixers and Phillies. Flyer fans are flyer fans, same with the Birds.
 
adp98 said:
So the majority of Philly fans are fair-weather/bandwagon fans? I'm stunned you admit this as we know it's especially true of the Sixers and Phillies. Flyer fans are flyer fans, same with the Birds.
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Most cities are full of fair-weathered fans. I think people in CoP remain dans and pay attention, but if the team is poor then the box office will definitely suffer. I have acknowledged this many times to you in past.

Personally, I don't go to a lot of games, but I'm certainly not a fair-weathered fan. Not going to games doesn't make you a non-fan. People have different circumstances.

Also, most cities behave this way with their teams.
 
That narrative sure changed from when the Phillies were selling out. Weren't you the guy who gave me grief because I didn't go to games for a new team that sucked and I had no connection to?
 
adp98 said:
That narrative sure changed from when the Phillies were selling out. Weren't you the guy who gave me grief because I didn't go to games for a new team that sucked and I had no connection to?
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Nope. I gave you grief because you ignored them altogether until they were ready to ascend. Weak.

Let me repeat again. You don't have to go to a lot of games or have season tickets to be consider a good/great fan.

I don't go to a ton of games, but I have no doubt I'm a huge fan of the Phillies, who tunes in nightly whether they win 100 or 60 games. Same with the Sixers.
 
ADP, as fans we can only control how we support the teams. Support can come in many forms.

I agree with you. CBP won't sellout routinely unless the Phillies are good.

The difference is that when the Phillies are good the place is packed. The Nats don't/can't do that. Two years ago they averaged a measly 2K more than the Phillies despite having a 1st place club. I know. It's a new franchise. What's the xperiation date on this excuse?
 
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