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These guys are much more athletic and better conditioned to play golf than Jack and Arnie ever were. Equipment adds a small part to the equation. Stop pining for the good ole day....Sit back and enjoy what your seeing.

Maybe use square balls........
 
Realize it was a bit of showmanship but loved Speith's thumbs up to Day on 17. Lesson to Tigger. Class.
 
Realize it was a bit of showmanship but loved Speith's thumbs up to Day on 17. Lesson to

I have no idea what type of athlete Palmer was/is, but everything I have read/ seen Jack was a very good
athlete in many sports is spite of his weight. Of course today's golfers are bigger and stronger; are they juiced?
Jack is on record as saying that the yips on tour when he first came out were the result of hang overs.

To say that equipment is playing only a small part is a gross understatement. Give the best players today
equipment from thirty five years ago and let them play. There are hundreds if not thousands of good to
great player now. But the twelve or so best players from 1960 played as well as the top dozen of today.
I have seen almost all in person with the exception of the very young players.

Did any of you ever see Ben Hogan play?
 
It's official, whitecat is an "alt".


An alternative my ass, I was posting on these boards as whitecat when it became
mandatory on some boards. I defer to no one on these boards as a person who has followed VU
hoops since 1948; I was a scout for Daddy Mass when he was at Stoneybrook, and he wanted
me to scout the Bonnies.

Since I was a public school teacher, I couldn't go to Olean after school.
But I might guess that I have seen more Penn Relays then almost anyone on this board,
I have been in thirteen states in about 40 schools. I could tell a good school in about
20 minutes and a good lesson in about the same time.
 
Attributing Spieth's success to a positive "glitch" in his putting is nice, but the facts don't really support it. He is first on the tour in strokes gained tee to green, fifth in strokes gained putting. There is more to the game than hiting it far. It is a great advantage, but you overvalue it in evaluating players.
 
When they both bring their A game Rory has a clear advantage. When they both bring their B game, Jordan has the advantage (he can hit his wedges, Rory can't).
 
Good discussion fellas. Day's 'A' game is plenty good enough for Rory's 'A' game.
 
With all the "FACT" comments, it would be like a more well rounded non-CoP sports centric burrs wrote this.
 
Is "Many are quietly seething....." bigger or smaller than the "same small group"?
 
So you've got one new fact- strokes gained putting at the Masters- and then more strawman arguments about people overhyping Spieth. You don't like or dislike him, we get it. Nobody's calling him a living legend on here other than you. Some of us just recognize that he's in Rory's league, which you steadfastly refused to admit because he doesn't hit the ball as far. If you stop exaggerating the opposing view and offer more facts it will improve your argument. I'm confident you have it in you.
 
Sorry, I missed the question. Can I say three each over the next five years or do I have to pick? Winning majors is hard. Hitting it far is nice; hitting it close on your next is more important. . The recipe for scoring is the same at most levels of golf: controlling your misses. Spieth does that very well. Spieth's numbers inside 20 yards are excellent because he misses in the right spots. That second shot Day hit on 16 on Sunday in the PGA left of the flag? Great shot because it worked out, but not smart. He should've been 25 feet right of the flag.
 
Spieth isn't short, either.

A good question is...as far as bagging more than 3-4 major titles (which i'm assuming most consider a stone-cold lock, and the basis of the discussion) who would he compare to in the modern era?

Nick Faldo?
Trolling ball now?
 
Three each is a very sane pick.

I'd love to hear what others think. Over the next five years? Over careers?

3 over 5 also sounds pretty conservative when he goes 1/1/T4/2 on top of a 2nd at the previous years Masters, all by 22. At the same time, logic says it's very difficult to imagine how anything close to that is sustainable. Would be gr8 if it is.

Edit: Guess McIlroy gets to double digits, not sure about Spieth "yet". Double digits is much.
I don't see double digits for any of them. Jordan Spieth may very well never have a year on tour as good as this one.
 
I think Spieth has a good chance to get 10 majors. He just seems committed and disciplined enough to do it. A player like Rory appears to like his social life a little too much (Nothing wrong with that either) and though he is tremendously talented and young, I think this holds him back.
 
Based on his interviews before the PGA, Rory is not a lock to survive his next year's worth of off-week football with his mates without needing surgery. If that happens, that could affect his swing for years.
 
Spieth went 1, 1, 2 and 2 in majors. The more I see his game I see a guy with no weakness who understands where to put the ball. He simoly eliminstes big numbers. He doesn't look like much but then you watch him play and it seems all he does is hit greens, fairways and consistently be in the right spot on the green. I don't have any numbers to prove this because I don't look at golf states: however, my guess is he makes so many long puts because he's usually on the right side of the hole and be aggressive with the putter.
 
Spieth went 1, 1, 2 and 2 in majors. The more I see his game I see a guy with no weakness who understands where to put the ball. He simoly eliminstes big numbers. He doesn't look like much but then you watch him play and it seems all he does is hit greens, fairways and consistently be in the right spot on the green. I don't have any numbers to prove this because I don't look at golf states: however, my guess is he makes so many long puts because he's usually on the right side of the hole and be aggressive with the putter.
Spell check next time.
 
You were always one of the most level-headed guys on here. The math professor doling out swing tips and inviting everybody and anybody up to the club in Michigan. Never entertaining the sophomoric jibes of the SSG.

When did you become such a cynical basterd to sh_t all over the gr8test American hero before he even gets out of the gate?

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Next time you're in the midwest, contact danmcguire. Golf on him...at his place.
 
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