manny machado and the houston ss were both high school kids picked early in the first round, yes?
harper went first and trout was also a first rounder?
harper went first and trout was also a first rounder?
Phillies 2016 Season
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Come on, the Harper pick was so easy that even Rizzo could make it. And he was already playing with a junior college, mashing. He was a once-in-10 years (or more) type guy, like when there's a Gretzky, Lemieux or Crosby there in hockey. Exception to the rule, agree would have gone college in a situation like this. Maybe this works out, maybe he's a little better than Jeff Jackson.
The only way I can sell myself on this one is that they play in CBP. More limited power could be more meaningful there. That said, if the Phillies ever want to contend again they have to stop trying to be like the Royals and collect some real power hitters, to take advantage of their park. Playing a speed game and small ball makes no sense whatsoever in that park.
The only way I can sell myself on this one is that they play in CBP. More limited power could be more meaningful there. That said, if the Phillies ever want to contend again they have to stop trying to be like the Royals and collect some real power hitters, to take advantage of their park. Playing a speed game and small ball makes no sense whatsoever in that park.
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Huh? CBP is middle of the pack as far as being HR-friendly.
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Exactly. People saw all the HRs flying out of there from 2006-2011 and assumed it was some type of big time hitter friendly park. Offense was loaded with patient hitters who were in their primes and could hit the long ball.
Not buying it. Still one of the best hitters parks in baseball. Incompetent management that deprived the team of all power and now trying to build them like the Cards in the '80s or maybe Royals today is skewing the numbers. Look at the 3-4-5 in the lineup since 2012 and tell me that's major league quality. Plus Phillies pitching did not decline as badly overall as the hitting (which was on the decline even when still making playoffs).
Ask ML players their favorite parks to hit in and it will get plenty of votes I'm sure.
Moving the fence in the left center field alley back a couple feet helped a little but not much difference from first couple years.
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Even with 20+ HR power at 7 spots in the lineup in the mid 00s it wasn't a jump off the page launching pad.
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Not going to argue with you. The data is available. Take a look at it sometime.
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Post a link to actual stats saying that. It's consistently been around # 12 in park factor over last 10 yrs. a couple seasons higher when Howard was crushing 50 and Utley/Rollins/Pat were higher 20s.
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What happened to Jmerc posting Howard's numbers on a daily basis, that was pretty funny. Which "alt" is jmerc now? I can't keep up with all these terrible "alts."
No, I went yesterday with wife and kids. Pool with kids, got to hit balls and come into men's grille bottom of 9.....that was fun.
This.
It was spoiled by Mountain Man Werth's game winning hit, but watching Papelbomb choke again was satisfying.
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Expand on this. You knew that he would be from Wilmington?
The newsgroup must be disappointed that he isn't from Delco or the CoP.
Will this chadrool be added to the CoPhillies Wall of Fame?
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Thank god! The manhunt is over! Another disorderly conduct offender off the streets. Ryan Howard can now hit .140 without fear of minor bodily harm.
That's the beauty of this. All this fake outrage and social media justice for a $50 littering citation
I think somebody (many people) in the media really dropped the ball here because the guy shown on every TV sports show as the perpetrator (salmon colored shorts) was NOT the same guy who turned himself in to the cops on Friday--------did anyone bother to check it out and vet this photo/story as being accurate? Its crazy stuff and certainly an injustice to the guy in that photo who apparently did nothing wrong!! Who was responsible for taking that photo and incorrectly identifying that person as the actual bottle thrower-----and one of the most hated/hunted people in this area during the past two weeks? Who knows, maybe it was the real bottle thrower himself who quickly took the photo just to throw off the authorities, but whatever the case, I think someone should be identified, given a chance to try to explain how it happened, and be held accountable for what turned out to be a terrible mistake and an injustice to that yet to be identified person in that photo----who's probably been in hiding/disguise for the past two weeks hoping that nobody recognizes him and turns him in as the Ryan Howard bottle thrower!!!
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Yeah - that is a tough 1st start. Day game against a team that was just shutout and can hit bombs better than most.
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Howard: 0 for 4. Down to .149
Time to initiate the farewell tour. Step 1: month long fake DL stint. Let's call it knee tendinitis or oblique strain.
Time to initiate the farewell tour. Step 1: month long fake DL stint. Let's call it knee tendinitis or oblique strain.
