When you're giving a team 4 slightly below market value years of proven ace Cole Hamels, you should get some solid major league prospects in return. Would prefer position players.
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Agree with burrs here.
I don't want to see a repeat of the Schilling and Rolen trades in which the Phillies essentially received a giant, steaming pile of sh*t in return.
Patience is a virtue. My inclination is that a borderline wild card team wanting to acquire an ace for the stretch run to put them over the top will flinch before the Phillies do, provided that the demands are reasonable.
I don't want to see a repeat of the Schilling and Rolen trades in which the Phillies essentially received a giant, steaming pile of sh*t in return.
Patience is a virtue. My inclination is that a borderline wild card team wanting to acquire an ace for the stretch run to put them over the top will flinch before the Phillies do, provided that the demands are reasonable.
Burrs and nc94 generally continue to be right here. AS break happening now, the trade market essentially just opened for business, infinitely more attention will be paid to who's in/who's out as far as being serious about loading up for the stretch run. The pressure is building on all those GMs and franchises as we speak. Nothing that's happened before now as far as offers accepted/rejected means a thing, aside from establishing that despite all the horrific misdeeds the Rube has committed in the past, the Phillies are not easy prey now, there's more adult supervision and attention now, people know Phils can't f--- this up. Next two weeks or so are all that matters.
All well and good but they've been trying to trade the guy for a year and haven't been able to do so. Now they have brought in a new guy. Did you ever consider the Phillies are Fuking idiots if that's their stance and maybe why you still have an unhappy Cole Hamels? Everyone in the league knows the Phillies have to trade him. Their leverage doesn't increase with each passing day. They will get two decent prospects. Make the deal and move along.
The only thing worse than f-ing it up is not doing it and Hamels blowing out his shoulder in August.
See, I don't think they have been trying for a year. There was very little, if any talk about moving him at this time last year. Plus, I don't believe they were ultra aggressive over the winter. Anyway, like I have said from day one, but if they get s fair offer prior to deadline then they will move. We will see...
And quite frankly, I don't give two craps if Cole is unhappy. You make 22 mil. Do your job and control what you can.
The goal isn't to make Hameks happy and the receiving team happy. The Phillies also have to be happy at the end of the day.
Burrs, in these two threads you are defending the Sixers and Phillie's management. Seek help.
There's no such thing as making Cole Hamels happy. He pouts and stomps around on the mound. That's why he's Queeny.
I defend issues/situations worth defending. Certainly, not everything each does. Really, man you're better than this. Try to keep up a little better. It's disappointing.
Not really concerned with what they get for JP. Different situation. For Hamels, a team's top 10 isn't good enough. More like two top five guys. Again, it depends where these prospects are ranked. A team like Texas or Boston each have 5-6 top 100 prospects. Where as the Yankkes might only have two. So, getting Texas' #3 or #4 guys is much different than getting the Yankees #3 or #4 players. You feel me?
Nice win for the Phils tonight -- Adam Morgan 6.1 IP, 4 H, 3 BB, 2 ER, 3 K's. Also had a double, his first major league hit, to start the Phillies' 2-run 6th inning off Jose Fernandez. Francoeur hit a 3-run pinch hit HR in the 8th. Franco 1-for-4 with a single, and hit into a bases loaded double play. Garcia, Giles, and Papelbon did the job out of the pen, although Paps did give up a solo shot.
Solid post other than Garcia doing the job. Nah, he throws too many sliders instead of that 97 MPH heater.
Anyone spending their Saturday night checking out the Phils (30-62) and the Stanton-less Marlins (38-52)? Should be a hell of a pitching matchup: Tom Koehler (7-5, 3.40 ERA) vs. Chad Billingsley (1-3, 6.75 ERA).
How about all these stories coming out about the rift between Sandberg and the players? Look, Sandberg is a dud as a manager, but could you imagine taking over this aging group of no-talent j*rkoffs and trying to steer them in the right direction? Impossible task.
How about all these stories coming out about the rift between Sandberg and the players? Look, Sandberg is a dud as a manager, but could you imagine taking over this aging group of no-talent j*rkoffs and trying to steer them in the right direction? Impossible task.
Why even have a manager? Playing time decisions are based on their development plan for the future. Would like to see Amaro demoted to the dugout to manage his fiasco first hand.
David Buchanan first win of the year! Might have to break out the blow dryer tonight to celebrate.
How about this gem of an "article". Rays players sound like a bunch of pussies.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/rays-tales-2008-memories-of-philadelphia/2237867
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/rays-tales-2008-memories-of-philadelphia/2237867
Nats been in 1st for a while. The run been going for a few years. Today we called up Ross for another start, I might splash a keyboard. He'll be better than Nola and we picked him up along with Turner for Steven Souza - Rizzo = genius. Phils won't get two players that good for Hamels. Enjoy the rebuild.
And the run always ends with the kids slamming their heads on the dining room table because the roster is comprised of a bunch of bed shitters.
Not sure why I even reply to an obvious troll of a post.
I replied to a troll and you replied to my reply. It's the circle of life on 4.6. However, let's get back to the fact Rizzo got two studs in Ross and Turner for Souza. 5 years from now the Phillies won't have gotten two players as good for Hamels. Ponder that for a moment. Rizzo does as a nothing trade what the Phillies haven't been able to do for a year with a proven stud like Hamels. Must burn. If you have a chance tune in to watch Ross. Kid is a stud.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/Jeff_Francoeur_may_not_fetch_much_in_a_trade.html
I like the idea of Amaro on the phone all day trying to get top prospects for Jeff Francoeur, who should have been out of baseball 3 years ago.
I like the idea of Amaro on the phone all day trying to get top prospects for Jeff Francoeur, who should have been out of baseball 3 years ago.
Do you mind if I borrow your crystal ball? I like how you can see into the future with so many things.
Nothing the Nats do burns me. Really. Someone has to win this terrible division. Very good staff. Flawed line-up.
Francoeur. He is mobile and his legs have not turned to stone yet.
Wait. Someone needed to write a story to explain that JF isn't going to fetch much back? Good stuff, Einstein.